You've probably read this classic boner of an iPod quote at some point:
No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
It's from the Slashdot article on the introduction of the original Apple iPod back in 2001. I had always assumed this particular quote was written by a random Slashdot user in the comments. But in fact, that quote is part of the body of the news entry, and it came directly from Rob Malda, the founder of Slashdot.
Rob's pithy dismissal of the iPod at its introduction has become virtually synonymous with how out of touch the Slashdot crowd is with the rest of the world. It's ripe for parody, as Andy Baio explains:
This is nothing new. It's as old as communication itself. I'm sure that the moment man discovered fire, there was some guy nearby saying, "Too smoky. Can burn you. Lame."
The success of the iPod was anything but a foregone conclusion back in 2001. A quick peek at the first iPod ad provides a little context to how rough that first generation really was compared to the competely polished product we enjoy on store shelves today. But the iPod, and the companion iTunes Store, have been hugely successful:
Clearly Apple is doing something right. Except there's one small problem. Music purchased from the Apple store comes encumbered with Apple's flavor of Digital Rights Management, known as FairPlay:
(EMI and independent artists are also offered in "iTunes Plus" DRM-free format -- at last count, around 2 million songs. These songs were originally sold at a 30 cent premium, but later reduced to the standard 99 cents.)
Now, I'm a pragmatist. I'm no fan of DRM, but I do accept that sometimes it is a necessary evil. FairPlay was indeed an acceptable tradeoff when Apple's iTunes Store was one of the few easy and legal ways to get digital music of any kind.
But that's no longer true today. You can generally get the same music for the same price, or less, at Amazon's MP3 store -- completely free of any form of DRM! Reg Braithwaite provides an example:
For example, Bach: Goldberg Variations, BWV 988 on 256-bit DRM-free MP3 is just $9.99 from Amazon. The same album is also $9.99 from Apple, but you get DRM. And there are tons of tracks on Amazon that are actually less expensive than on iTMS, so you get better music for less money without the DRM hassle.
Better quality. Less money. And no evil, consumer hostile DRM! It's almost unbelievable. Needless to say, I've been buying as much music as I can from Amazon to vote with my wallet and demonstrate to the music labels that yes, giving the customer what they want does pay. And you should too. Every purchase of DRM-ed music, in the face of Amazon's excellent alternative, is an implicit vote for more useless, aggravating DRM on your music.
If it seems a little odd to you that Amazon is somehow able to offer all this music up DRM-free, while the majority of Apple's iTunes Store catalog is still stuck in the old testament world of DRM customer punishment, you're not alone.
The reason you can find more music on Amazon at a lower price is that the Record Labels want it that way. Do you think they charge Apple and Amazon the same price for each track and Apple simply charges you more and pockets the difference as a higher markup? The labels would like you to think that, but they actually charge Amazon less for each track, and that's how Amazon can charge you less.Do you think Apple insists on the DRM but Amazon has the vision to see that the future of music is DRM-free? Do you think Jeff Bezos is a better negotiator and he was able to get a better price per track than Steve Jobs? Without putting up with DRM?
The major labels want nothing more than to break Apple's dominance of the digital music business. They spin it as a good thing. More retailers means more competition, which is good for consumers.
The record labels now view the massive iTunes juggernaut as a threat. Thus, the offer of DRM-free music exclusively to Amazon, and at lower prices than Apple can offer, is a direct attack by the record labels on the increasing power of Apple's iTunes. The irony of the record labels attacking a Frankenstein monster of their very own creation is almost overwhelming -- who do you think demanded that all the music on iTunes have DRM in the first place?
But here's where Reg Braithwaite and I differ: he argues that poor Apple is getting a raw deal.
And if the whole world can sell DRM-free music, then Amazon and the like would have to compete with iTMS by building a better music store. Except, of course, they don't have to compete with iTMS because the labels are colluding to place Apple at a disadvantage.
I'll certainly agree that the stunning success of the iTunes Store is what led us to this competitive situation in the first place, and that's entirely to Apple's credit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they've made quite the handsome profit along the way, too.
But to argue that the competition is "unfair" smacks of the absolute worst kind of Apple advocacy. Unfair? Unfair to whom? The customers who are getting DRM-free music officially blessed by the major record labels?
Yeah, that's terrible. Just awful.
Hold on for a minute while I wipe this tear out of my eye. Try to imagine me playing my DRM-free MP3 of REM's "Everybody Hurts" while I'm doing it, for maximum effect.
As soon as they can break this pesky iPod-iTMS-iPhone nonsense, the labels want to get back to dictating what you pay and how often you pay.
You'll get no argument from me that the RIAA and the major record labels are as close as you can get to pure evil while not actively killing small children, puppies, and kittens. Well, not in public, anyway. I'm sure they'd be charging us a trillion dollars per song -- no, per byte of the song -- if they could get away with it.
But clearly, they can't. There are certain market realities at work here. There's absolutely no historical evidence that a type of media, once it is officially sold DRM free, can somehow revert back to the DRM model. I am somehow reminded of software developers who desperately try to "revoke" the GPL after they've adopted it.
So if the labels want to disrupt the power of the iTunes machine by doing the right thing for customers and irrevocably breaking the back of DRM on music, that is the beauty of pure competition working for us, the users. This is a level of progress on the DRM front that I thought we would never see.
If it takes "the labels break[ing] Apple", as Reg says, to get us this far, then so be it. That kind of invective may be difficult to read if you're emotionally involved with Apple. But let me tell you, I've been emotionally involved with companies before, and it rarely ends well. I find that corporations never reciprocate your love in quite the same way.
Personally, I'd much rather be an advocate for my fellow users than an advocate of any one particular company. For now, that means supporting Amazon's DRM-free MP3 store. I'm pretty sure the good folks at 1 Infinite Loop will survive, one way or another.
Oh, oh, first!
Paolo Bergantino on May 7, 2008 9:49 AMDon't forget iTMS also sells (some) DRM-free, high-bit-rate music.
Also, I didn't read the Braithwaite post, but Firefox tells me the first appearance of the word "unfair" is one you wrote. In the pull-quote above that, you quote Braithwaite used the words "colluding" and "disadvantage", but that doesn't amount to the same thing.
Jeff,
Congrats on crossing the 100K readers mark.
Great!!!
I also think the DRM-free stores are great, but until there is licensing available outside of the U.S. or Canada then iTunes will be where I shop. I don't have any friends in the states willing to share their credit card details, and Australia isn't yet 'hip' enough to have dangerous goods like music digitally shipped to.
Matt on May 7, 2008 10:19 AM"Old Testament"? Why not Koran, Talmud, Mein Kampf, Homeland Securities Act, .... WTF?
Steve on May 7, 2008 10:34 AMAnd if iTunes goes away, how long will amazon keep selling its DRM-free music for? Or will the record companies let the amazon contract lapse and it's back to DRM-ville, but on amazon this time?
Colen on May 7, 2008 10:34 AMThere's also the recent unbelievably consumer-hostile death of PlaysForSure DRM. See the Dive into Mark post: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2008/05/06/the-day-the-music-died
Most non techie customers have a happy go lucky worldview where they buy DRMed music and it just works. It just takes ONE technical failure that costs them a stupid dollar and they will instantly know everything they need to know about DRM. They'll vote with their wallet and they'll tell others to stay away from DRM.
DRM was doomed from a cryptology perspective, but it was also doomed from a business perspective because it subtracts value from products. No customer ever asked for more DRM.
Nathan Bowers on May 7, 2008 10:41 AMThe polish on modern iPods is just icing on the cake. An evolutionary improvement to the radical change the original iPod represented.
Before the iPod, portable music meant CD players, which meant you could have a convenient and portable player, or a wide variety of music to listen to, but not both. Then, suddenly, there was this magic THING that was the size of a deck of cards and could store most people's entire music library. No swapping CDs, no scratched media -- instead, something that was easy to carry with an intuitive interface that integrated cleanly with the best music library manager (this was all Mac-only back then).
I mowed lawns all summer long to earn enough money to get a 5 gig iPod for my brother. I ended up liking the iPod so much that I kept it for myself... But there is a happy ending -- I helped my brother get a 10 gig a few months later.
Ben Karel on May 7, 2008 10:41 AMI think Colen is on the mark and Jeff has missed the point.
The labels colluding with Amazon to produce an artificial competitive advantage and stopping Amazon and Apple competing on their merits is always going to be bad for consumers. Who cares about Apple.
gassit on May 7, 2008 10:45 AMI think the "unfair" bit refers to the fact that Apple presumably has to pay more per track and is, for all intents and purposes, forced to sell "inferior goods" (never mind whether they actually would choose to use DRM and enforce a vendor lock-in if given the choice).
I don't know whether it's legal or not, but I suspect it is. Just a case of one company negotiating a better deal than the other, technically. No ulterior motives at work there... ;)
Ultimately, I agree with you. Fair or not, it's an unusual case where the market is actually working in the best interests of the consumer. Plus, I have no love for the ITMS, and wish nothing more than to never have to touch it again. It sucked when I got one of the new iPods back when they came out and, due to new encryption, had to use iTunes to manage it. Thankfully, now MediaMonkey, WinAmp, et. al. are able to manage it, meaning iTunes need never sully my hard disk again.
Asmor on May 7, 2008 10:45 AMJeff,
Thanks so much for pointing this store out! I wasn't even aware of the store's existence. I'm tired of burning my tunes to disc then ripping them to mp3; I'll definitely be shopping with Amazon from now on. Or with the likes of radiohead and nin. Check out nin's brand-spanking new, free, and unencumbered album "The Slip". (http://www.nin.com/)
DRM is the reason I've never purchased anything on iTunes. Until the Amazon mp3 store opened about 6 months ago, I was still buying CDs and ripping them to add to my collection. I know use the Amazon mp3 store on a regular basis.
Another good place to buy DRM-free mp3s is www.cdbaby.com. CD Baby is almost entirely indie stuff and has stuff you can't find anywhere else. I think the artist sees more of the $$ from CD Baby, too--they give 91% of the digital sale directly to the artist. It's a great way to support the artist directly.
Myron on May 7, 2008 10:48 AMI didn't realize Amazon sold DRM free music. That could save me the headaches of taking the DRM off myself, however the free music from Ruckus is worth the headache I suppose. When I stop using Ruckus and if Amazon is still DRM I'll convert. Personally I hate iTunes it is a resource hog and all round a pain to use.
Chris S on May 7, 2008 11:09 AMiTMS sells music with DRM (though not all of it with DRM, sure, and Jobs vowed to remove the DRM as soon as the labels let him, which is something already).
Amazon MP3 is nothing short of amazing, but unlike iTMS *it only works in the US*. And like the rest of Amazon's services other than the bookshop part, it shows no signs of going international anytime soon.
Sigh.
millenomi on May 7, 2008 11:11 AMOne thing I'll say in Apple's defense in this: I can buy a track from the iTunes store and *legally* share it with a couple of my friends. With plain vanilla MP3s, I can't legally share it at all. My co-workers and I love to share our music collections with each other, but we want to do it legally. A bit of DRM seems to be the only way to do that at the moment. The license agreement for Amazon's store, and for Apple's DRM-free iTunes Plus, says no sharing. Period. I'm certainly no DRM advocate, but in this case, it is giving me something I can't otherwise get.
Brad Rhine on May 7, 2008 11:11 AMCan you buy individual songs from Amazon?
Bobby on May 7, 2008 11:11 AMBut to argue that the competition is "unfair" smacks of the absolute worst kind of Apple advocacy. Unfair? Unfair to whom?
It's unfair to customers who demand a *market* in DRM-free music. A market where potential competitors in this market not be excluded for arbitary reasons.
If any *other* company was being excluded from the DRM-free music market - would you also be OK with this?
Alastair on May 7, 2008 11:12 AMMuch maligned as Malda's comment is, it doesn't reveal how out of touch he is, it simply reveals which market segment he belongs too. Previous mp3 players with superior specs were branded for and marketed towards typical early adopting electronics consumers, ie geeks with a bit of disposable cash. They weren't huge successes because that was a bad branding decision; those people are not huge music consumers and represent a small part of the market. Malda's reaction to the product was almost inevitable, because the ipod wasn't targeted at him, while a lot of other products were. Apple enjoyed huge commercial success because it made much better decisions than its competitors.
For everybody waiting to dismiss a product that may go on to see commercial success, there is somebody waiting to dismiss that person's honest and accurate assessment...
Jonathan on May 7, 2008 11:14 AMi long for the day when amazon will sell mp3s outside the US. Until then there's very few options (besides piracy) for non-ipod users outside the US.
ben on May 7, 2008 11:28 AMMy fear is that if the Amazon MP3 store continues to grow in popularity it may begin to marginalize the iTunes store, once the word really gets out that it offers songs at better quality for the same or cheaper price and with no DRM.
Why does that scare me? Not because I think DRM will come back; I don't think that will happen. But because I fear that the labels will have the power to raise prices at their will, which gets us right back to where we were with physical CDs (which have no DRM, remember?): the record labels have complete control of the price. Steve Jobs is a great negotiator, and I wonder if some clause about price control isn't already written into the Amazon contract.
if that happens of course that means we'll go back to trading MP3s again, which - let's face it - is a reality we'd resort to if pushed, but not one we'd like to have to embrace again. I don't think the labels have learned anything and are just in the midst of trying to get control.
The only way to compete with iTunes is on price and quality; the labels can't stop the iPod from being the best music player and thus iTunes being the most convenient. But if iTunes becomes sufficiently marginalized, they can tear up those contracts completely without losing much and then get to work on recovering all the "lost profits" from selling all those songs to Amazon at such a "steep discount".
josh on May 7, 2008 11:33 AMI have been voting with my wallet also. I've already purchased more music from Amazon than I did from Apple.
Die DRM Die!
Gareth on May 7, 2008 11:34 AMHmm, well sure, except for your factual errors. You don't mention (although commenters do) that Apple sells DRM free music on the iTMS. You don't mention that Apple provides a mechanism to remove the DRM on FairPlay tracks (albeit via a fairly invloved and time consuming process of burning them back to CD Audio format). So basically, just another opportunity to bash Apple based on... what? I'm sorry Jeff, your argument would fail if you mentioned these facts. You are either unaware (in which case why write an article without researching it fully?) or deliberately misleading your readers.
I'm not arguing that Amazon isn't a better source of DRM free music, It may well be. I don't know, I live outside the US. But it is incumbent upon you to get your facts straight. If you had taken these facts into account, how different would this post have to be? I enjoy reading your articles, but it looks to me like your bias against Apple is actually affecting your judgement. Whenever you write about them, you look uninformed.
A sound engineer I met in Vancouver, B.C. in 2005 gave me his version of the lowdown on Apple's relationship with the major recording labels. It was sheer venom on the part of the labels he said, because Apple was essentially setting their famous 99 cent price, and then telling the labels how much of that 99 cents they'd get! The labels were powerless to set their own prices in the face of iTune's success. He cited this as the reason that movie downloads were not going to end up available on Apple's site in the same manner as the music, as the studios were not looking forward to handing pricing controls over to a vendor in the same way that the music labels had.
If that's in any way true (and it sound about right), it wouldn't be surprising that in 2008 that the recording industry would be happily handing Apple the shortest end of the stick that they could afford to.
Chris Moorhouse on May 7, 2008 11:48 AMI'm another one who would love to welcome his new Amazon music store overlords... if they had any plans to serve customers outside the USA. That makes me collateral damage for the stupid anti-competitive games being played by the record labels.
Charles Miller on May 7, 2008 12:14 PMJeff, your post tries really, really, really hard to seem like you're being even-handed about Apple and about Braithwaite's post, but there seems to be a good deal of hostility toward Apple lurking beneath the reasonable surface. Ironically, your post seems to be emotionally involved with Apple (albeit negatively) despite your protestations to the contrary.
Also, I think you misrepresent the Braithwaite post as somehow presenting an emotional position about Apple. I read all of Braithwaite's post, and didn't think at all that it was whining that Apple is being treated "unfairly" (your word, btw, which doesn't exist anywhere in the post). It's a given that Apple leads the market and are making some pretty good profit from the current, mostly-DRM'ed iTunes store. But as a highly user-centric organization, Apple would much rather not have to dump the encumbrances of DRM on their users. It's the labels that have insisted on the DRM lock-down from day 1 of iTunes' existence, and now the labels are trying to leverage this against Apple. Which they are legally allowed to do (all's fair... etc.). But I have no doubts that if Apple were allowed dump DRM, they would do so in a flash. Steve Jobs has already publicly stated as much. And if this happened, then their competitors would have to compete based on UX, usability, AND price rather than just on price and lack of DRM. That seems to be the point of Braithwaite's post, and not that poor, poor Apple is being mistreated and shouldn't we pity them, etc etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they've made quite the handsome profit along the way, too.
As far as iTunes is concerned, Apple makes little profit. They consider it a loss-leader for selling iPods, which is where the handsome profit is.
Apple is selling some movies on iTunes for less than the studios charge them, simply to maintain their consistent pricing policy.
Steve McLeod on May 7, 2008 12:20 PMHave to disagree with you Jeff....
Enjoy the return of DRM if iTunes goes down due labels not offering Apple the same opportunity to compete :)
Seriously, I'm surprised you can't see this is a classic bait and switch by the labels, if you don't think so, you're naive and a little misguided in your enthusiasm.
nexusprime on May 7, 2008 12:24 PMThe problem with ITMS' DRM is that it's not aimed at protecting authors (and labels) but rather aimed at helping Apple sell more iPods!
As long as I can't listen to the music I buy on my USB-aware car radio, iTMS is a no-no.
Serge Wautier on May 7, 2008 12:28 PMThere is one good thing about iTunes (and the iPod): It does not require the iTunes Store or DRM at all. I am playing my music with iTunes at home and on my iPod outside, and yet I don't have to deal with DRM, because I bought the music elsewhere. Personally, I prefer physical media, as they act as a sort of external backup device. I rip the CDs into iTunes and play the music there. It works without any hassle, without any DRM etc. I have never bought a single piece on the iTunes Store. ;)
Mephane on May 7, 2008 12:36 PMI'm gonna miss the cds.
The thrill of tearing off the plastic of a newly bought cd and popping it in for a sonic bliss. The artwork.
Too bad not many of these online retailers offer flac(lossless audio).
I'm gonna miss the cds.
You see, the only problem with Amazon (compared to iTMS) for me is that it isnt available in Australia (i think) and it isnt integrated nicely with iTunes.
I understand the last one isnt really a valid point, but that is really were i dont like it. I like the iTMS pretty much because i only need to hit 'purchase' and the song is bought, added to my iTunes library and synced to my iPod next time i plug it in.
joshhunt on May 7, 2008 12:45 PMMaybe some polish readers will find this info useful:
I buy my music for *1 grosz* (= 1 cent) up to *99 grosz* (= 99 cents) per mp3 of Polish startup bands at megatotal.pl. No DRM, no politics - just music.
You can also freely browse and listen to all the music there, no 30s limitations.
Thanks!
Dentharg on May 7, 2008 12:49 PM if iTunes goes away
if iTunes goes down due
Do you honestly believe this is, in any possible universe, a realistic outcome? It's absurd.
As far as iTunes is concerned, Apple makes little profit.
"By Billboard's calculations, iTunes turned a profit in 2007 with $1.9 billion in revenue and a 30 percent profit margin"
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/03/apple-apparentl.html
I have no doubts that if Apple were allowed dump DRM, they would do so in a flash
Really? Odd, then, how OS X requires specific hardware to run. That's one bit of DRM they seem quite willing to carry forward.
competitors would have to compete based on UX, usability, AND price rather than just on price and lack of DRM
What "usability" and "UX" do I need from Amazon? It's a website that lets me download MP3s. As Serge said, above, the DRM ends up protecting the iPod lock-in more than the artists or labels.
Jeff Atwood on May 7, 2008 12:55 PMHuh, after buying about 50ish tracks from itunes in the past.. after reading your blog entry I'm going to start buying from Amazon instead.
-- Lee
Lee on May 8, 2008 2:01 AM"There's absolutely no historical evidence that a type of media, once it is officially sold DRM free, can somehow revert back to the DRM model."
Did the first CDs have DRM? Did more recent CDs have DRM?
- I really like scandinavian metal music.
Well, there's your problem, right there.. :)
Jeff Atwood on May 8, 2008 2:07 AMI like this - and I have never bought from iTunes because it's cheaper to buy the bargain basement CD (80's or 90's) by far, and the compression ratios suck. IPods sound fine through headphones but when you amplify them you need to put the bass and mid back in.
I do have a problem with Amazon, they've recently shafted small publishers that use publish on demand and tried to force them to use their (at least it used to be) 2nd rate POD service. Of course, when stuff arrives with upside down pages and missing pages it's the publisher that gets the blame, not the crap POD.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/amazon-muscles-print-on-demand-services/
I haven't been following this, but I won't buy from Amazon at the moment until they stop behaving like pigopolists.
Francis Fish on May 8, 2008 2:19 AMJeff,
You have a slightly blinkered view on things here. You have to remember that the Amazon music store is _only_ available to people living in the US. (Is it available in canada yet??)
I live in the UK and I've tried buying songs from it and it just won't let me. So I stay with iTunes Music Store. I don't have a particular problem with iTunes or the DRM associated with it, I play my music on my pc and listen to it on my iPod.
The DRM for me, doesn't get in the way, it is quite transparent, unlike the horrendous problems I used to have with the DRM used by Audible. That was an absolute nightmare.
MartinD on May 8, 2008 2:26 AMJeff,
What if Microsoft said to HP: "The only version of Windows that allowed to sell with your PCs is this version without IE and Windows Explorer and Media Player. We're going to let Dell (and maybe some of your other competitors) sell the full versions, with no problems, just not you." How quickly do you think the trustbusters/Justice Department/lawyers would have Microsoft in court? How would you feel if it happened to you?
If the labels are discriminating against Apple so blatantly then that's Just Plain Wrong - anti-competitive behaviour, possibly even collusion and certainly bad for competition.
Apple's DRM may be slightly restrictive, but it's *vastly* better than anything the RIAA and the record labels have come up with, and it managed to do DRM while still users some measure of freedom. Why should we punish Apple because it figured out how to balance the desires of consumers with the restrictions the record companies wanted? If Apple could offer the same DRM-free tracks as Amazon, wouldn't the users ultimately be the winners?
Apple gave us DRM we can live with. And a pretty good iTunes experience. And good music players too. And stuck it to the record labels. Don't they deserve a bit of credit?
Andrew on May 8, 2008 2:30 AMJeff,
Really? Odd, then, how OS X requires specific hardware to run. That's one bit of DRM they
seem quite willing to carry forward.
There's no DRM controlling what you can run OS X on. Apple only provide drivers for a limited pool of Intel kit. If you're sufficiently religious about not buying hardware from
Apple you can always build a 'frankenmac' that will run OS X:
http://www.macworld.com/article/133028/2008/04/building_mac_clone.html
Chris Snazell on May 8, 2008 2:31 AMDon't you love the wonderful:
Please note that Amazon MP3 is currently only available to US customers.
For a lot of us, iTunes is the only decent option of getting *any* downloadable music at all. And given the fact that we had to wait a whole extra year before iTunes became available here, that means I'll be out of luck for another couple of months with Amazon. If they'll *ever* remove that line.
But this isn't a problem with Amazon and music only. The internet is global, but shopping is still largely local. Quite a frustrating experience for non-US customers, at times.
Inferis on May 8, 2008 2:35 AM"Well, there's your problem, right there.. :)"
hehe :) Yeah, but the thing is... that's the one thing that's pretty much unchangeable. I tried, I really did, but britney really doesn't come close to evergrey ;P
Also, on the iTunes front - Steve Jobs Co keep approximately 50% of all profits on each AAC track they sell.
I wouldn't be so sure about that -- the numbers I've heard tossed about are much lower. If you have a source on the 50% number, please share.
Dennis on May 8, 2008 2:42 AMUnfair? Unfair to whom? The customers who are getting DRM-free music officially blessed by the major record labels?
Unfair to both the customer, who can't benefit from competing music stores -- as there is no competition -- and unfair to Apple who is not allowed to fairly compete with Amazon (and the rest of the world is hosed anyway, as the Amazon Music Store is only available in the US, so the only un-drm'd music stores for us europeans or oceanians are iTunes plus, good ol' CD and our PirateBay friends).
Reg's view that it's unfair, like it or not, is objective. It's not in any way, shape or form "Apple advocacy" (had that post come from DF it may have been, but Reg, is that a joke?).
Before the iPod, portable music meant CD players
It didn't. Before the iPod, portable music meant unusable interface and ugly brick, but there were HDD and even flash music players long before the iPod.
Really? Odd, then, how OS X requires specific hardware to run. That's one bit of DRM they seem quite willing to carry forward.
It's also a completely different one (and it's wrong anyway, OS X doesn't require specific hardware to run): in the computer market, Apple is a systems vendor, their software is here to sell their hardware, and the other way around. That's *not* the case in the music market, and Apple repeatedly stated they'd switch everything to un-DRM'd if they could. It's just that the labels won't let them have Amazon's deal.
Hell, Reg explained it perfectly well, you're more than a bit lacking in objectivity here jeff.
Just to agree with some of the commenters above, I read Reg's article first and I didn't get the impression that he was supporting Apple so much as objectively describing the current situation.
baxter on May 8, 2008 2:53 AMargh US only. Why the hell are distribution contracts so messed up? My current options are either iTunes or BitTorrent. Which is something that NBC should have considered when they pulled out of iTunes and set up yet another US-only portal. Customers will go down the path of least resistance. (sorry I realize this is slightly OT, but I had my hopes up for a second there before I read the fine print)
spongefile on May 8, 2008 3:10 AMAfter getting burned by MSN Music's DRM music files not playing on my computer after a processor upgrade and not being allowed to Authorize/Deauthorize any new PCs, I have sworn off DRMed music. Amazon MP3 DRM free downloads are my format of choice. fairly high bit rate without the DRM leaves me asking if I will ever purchase an actual CD again. I'm not an audiophile (I'm a convenience-phile) so digitally re-coded music isn't an issue with me.
Seems like the people who played by the rules and bought DRM music (I could have easily downloaded those same songs on Kazaa) are the ones who got screwed by it. The people who ripped a friend's CD to their MP3 player don't have any of the problems I had.
Louis on May 8, 2008 3:10 AMI've been holding off commenting on this because I wanted to make sure I had my thoughts in order first -- first a bit of background. I have been using iTunes since v1.0 came out in early 2001. I have bought a number of iPods and iPhones over the years, starting with a iPod mini when they came out. I've been using OS X since the Public Beta days, and I also use Linux and Windows regularly. I first downloaded MP3s back in late 1996/early 1997 and have been listening to all of my music through the "MP3 filter*" for about 7 years now.
I think there is a number of misconceptions that have been tossed out over the years about iTunes and Apple:
1 - Apple is pro DRM/anti consumer
2 - iTunes locks users into the iPod
3 - Apple uses proprietary formats to lock users into iTunes
It seems as every time these are tossed out, it's always from someone who hasn't used Apple products before. Or if they have, it was when they were in school, many years ago, on an Apple II+.
Anyway, I think what would be helpful is that people separate a few concepts here. One is that just because Apple is dominating the portable music market right now doesn't mean they are being anti-competitive like other companies (Microsoft, RIAA). If people would take an objective look at Apple's products, they would see the reason they are dominating the market is because in general, they are putting out the better product. Hands down. And by product, I don't just mean the hardware, I mean the software on both the iPod and iTunes as well.
Also, another thing to separate is that the behavior of Apple in regards to DRM is not necessarily due to Apple deciding that DRM is a good thing. Remember, they have to license the music from the RIAA to offer it on the iTMS. Saying that Apple wants DRM because it locks customers into iPods has no basis in reality -- the truth is Apple offers music with DRM because if they hadn't, they wouldn't have had much of a store in the first place.
An aside -- with the ease that Apple's DRM scheme can be broken, I would argue that it's not even likely to be a factor in locking someone into an iPod. To the above poster who switched to Linux -- why didn't you burn the music to CDs first and re-rip them? Or maybe even do some digging around on the net to find other ways to defeat FairPlay?
If people want to accuse Apple of locking consumers in, then what they are really saying is that when a company listens to their customers and offers a product that meets their needs, they must be doing something wrong because it locks customers in. If Apple stopped using iTunes, or changed for the worse the way you interact with the iPod, or made their DRM so tough that I couldn't use it, I would start shopping around for alternatives. But Apple keeps innovating and resisting pressure from the RIAA and others to add more DRM to their products. I really wish I could point to another company that has my needs in mind when it comes to music.
dennis
* Meaning that everything I listen to has been first compressed to MP3 or AAC before burned to a CD, loaded onto an iPod, played through iTunes or the stereo.
Dennis on May 8, 2008 3:15 AMI don't see how the record companies letting Amazon sell DRM-free music at the same time as requiring that Apple keep DRM on the music that they sell, as anything /but/ unfair on Apple and ultimately on the consumer. While the recording industry tries to control Apple, we lose out. Jobs has already stated on record (heh, sorry) that he would remove all DRM from the iTunes store if the labels would agree to it.
And as no-one else has mentioned it yet - the 5-computers limit on the Apple iTunes purchases is 5 simultaneous computers, not 5 for all-time. Just thought I'd mention this as I've seen it in a few places and many people do seem to think that once you've authorised 5 computers it's game over. You can de-authorise computers; I'm on my 4th Mac, I have 2 machines in current use and have 3 authorisations available to me at the moment. All of my Macs were authorised when I was using them. When it's time to move the machine along, I just deauthorise that computer from my Apple account.
Hey, i just gave you a decent chunk of change for that mp3 link :). I NEVER knew amazon had an MP3 store.
Jeff, again, you are amazing!
Jeremy on May 8, 2008 3:37 AMsmucks.
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/when-pigs-fly-death-of-oink-birth-of.html
which.cd did I hear ?
George on May 8, 2008 3:41 AMRecord companies letting Amazon sell DRM-free music at the same time as requiring that Apple keep DRM on the music that they sell, as anything /but/ unfair on Apple
As a consumer, why would I care about anything other than competition resulting in lower prices -- and *less DRM* -- for me? Why would I care how "unfairly" a company with a 160 billion dollar market cap (as of this writing) is being treated?
It's competition. It's business. Business is war, and as long as the consumer benefits, the system is working as designed. AAPL is a big company. They don't need my or your moral support to succeed. They have plenty of great products. I'm sure there are millions of consumers who could care less if there is DRM on their music as long as it works on their iPods.
It's not in any way, shape or form "Apple advocacy"
It is when you explicitly put the concerns of a 160 billion dollar company ahead of the typical music consumer.
Unfair to both the customer, who can't benefit from competing music stores -- as there is no competition
Was there viable competition for digital music downloads before Amazon? No, there wasn't. So in effect this has created the only real competition there ever would be. Without Amazon DRM-free, iTunes was well on its way to becoming utterly dominant and entrenched, the de-facto standard for the forseeable future.
Would Apple have reduced iTunes Plus fees from $1.29 to $0.99 if Amazon didn't offer DRM free music for less? Out of the goodness of their heart? Because they love, in Reg's words, "delighting customers"?
It's actually much simpler than this: the record labels realized that the DRM they asked for from Apple wasn't protecting them or the artists at all, but in fact, protecting the Apple iPod lock-in model. The labels had no choice but to permanently destroy DRM to regain distribution control of their own music. A pyrrhic victory, to be sure, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of folks.
The enemy of my enemy (DRM) is my friend.
Jeff Atwood on May 8, 2008 3:53 AMWow, so many readers who feel "dis-enfranchised" by the direction of Jeff's blog...
Could it be that the same criticism he leveled at his (now) new partner, Joel, http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000679.html , can now be applied to him?
I just couldn't resist: http://www.burch-swm.com/misc.html
I'm not hatin' Jeff, but you do open yourself up to some of this :-)
Steve on May 8, 2008 3:58 AMI've been beating the anti-DRM drum for years now. Many of my friends blindly go on buying from iTS in spite of my repeated rants to the contrary. Ugh. Lemmings.
I continue to purchase CDs then rip them to MP3 format. It's a control thing. And it's a backup thing! Hard drives may be more reliable than ever before, but they still die and very few computer owners ever do comprehensive backups. So, if your hard drive goes belly up and you've lost all of that music you've paid to download, what then?
Rob O. on May 8, 2008 3:59 AMBuy a CD: higher quality, no DRM.
Ramiro Polla on May 8, 2008 4:06 AMI completely agree with you Jeff; I don't buy anything from itunes since I got for mistake DRM-ed songs (it was the first time for me on that site and there was no clear evidence that those songs were DRM-ed, call it lack of transparency...). Unluckyly here in Italy we don't have the luck of having amazon's service so at the moment we can't do like you.
I hope the future will be better, best we can do for now is to avoid buying from itunes-store.
Quote:
As a consumer, why would I care about anything other than competition resulting in lower prices -- and *less DRM* -- for me? Why would I care how "unfairly" a company with a 160 billion dollar market cap (as of this writing) is being treated?
Because there is no competition involved, and the labels are manipulating the market at will. Exercise: as a consumer, why should you care about companies selling products at below production costs (hint: it has something to do with sustaining the competition in the future)?
Quote:
The labels realized they had to permanently destroy DRM to regain distribution control of their own music.
Nobody destroyed DRM. The labels can stop giving non-DRMed music to Amazon any moment that they feel secure in having more than 1 highly successful middleman for DRMed music. And if Apple is discriminated against heavily enough, there will be competitors in that market sector before long.
From Ars Technica:
Amazon rounds out DRM-free music offering with Sony BMG
Probably fuming at the news is Steve Jobs, who has been hammering the labels to let iTunes be the first to offer their music DRM-free.
But the labels have apparently been playing hardball with Apple, and have all (but one) decided to take their unprotected music elsewhere. It's not an accident that EMI and a handful of independent labels are the only ones selling DRM-free music through iTunes right now—the labels are actively trying to lessen Apple's influence in digital music.
akuzi on May 8, 2008 4:38 AMI thnk you're a bit naive on this one Jeff - Apple would love to offer DRM-free music from all labels (see http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/), it's the labels that are preventing it.
Whereas I am of the opinion that I am better off just buying from iTunes (when I am not buying physical that is) because:
1) I am unwilling to support the music industry juggernaut's boycott
2) I believe a larger part of the revenue goes to the actual artist
3) Amazon completely sucks in comparison to the iTunes store (even tho I admit I don't hate it at all)
4) I'm only playing it on iPods and Macs anyway
The big labels need to stfu and stop trying to enslave artists, companies and consumers.
kris on May 8, 2008 4:52 AMBuy a CD: higher quality, no DRM.
Not that the music companies haven't tried - several times. If they didn't get so much bad press, I'm sure the DRM'ed CDs would still be on the market (and I am sure that they will try again if they think they can get away with it).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal
RJ on May 8, 2008 5:04 AMJeff writes:
As a consumer, why would I care about anything other than competition
resulting in lower prices -- and *less DRM* -- for me? Why would I
care how "unfairly" a company with a 160 billion dollar market cap (as of this writing) is being treated?
One thing to care about is the buying experience. Personally i'd rather buy music through the iTunes store because it's integrated with the most popular music player.
You are not being an advocate for the consumer, you're being an advocate for the music labels.
akuzi on May 8, 2008 5:05 AM
I'll buy music online once Amazon's mp3 sales are available in New Zealand. Until then (and probably after), CDs will do fine.
Bernard on May 8, 2008 5:15 AM"One thing to care about is the buying experience. Personally i'd rather buy music through the iTunes store because it's integrated with the most popular music player."
Okay, that's fine...
"You are not being an advocate for the consumer, you're being an advocate for the music labels."
Wha? I mean, huh? Amazon's interface is worse (in your opinion) than Apple's, and to use the worse (in your opinion) interface... helps... the labe-
I'm sorry, I cannot make any logical connection between those two statements. Did you forget a paragraph?
Bernard on May 8, 2008 5:18 AMDon't forget DRM-free will help on your batteries too!
Taking this to the logical extreme, buying drm free music means you are saving the planet.
Chris on May 8, 2008 5:24 AM"I have no doubts that if Apple were allowed dump DRM, they would do so in a flash"
Funny. I remember some tracks on emusic that were available as unprotected MP3s at the same time that they were DRM'd on iTMS.
Incidentally, Jeff, it's worth checking out emusic, and sometimes getting a subscription for a month or two. There's not a huge range of mainstream music, but they've got people like the White Stripes and Belle and Sebastian, and its much cheaper.
Tim Almond on May 8, 2008 5:31 AMI find itunes mostly great, but the main problem I have had is that I can't easily share itunes library between different computers. That becomes a problem because I'm not going to buy 2 copies of each song (one for me and one for my wife).
What I have to do is strip the DRM from itunes songs, and convert to mp3s. It would be easier to just pirate the songs! stupid stupid stupid.
deadcat on May 8, 2008 5:34 AMI agree, mostly, with the points you are making, but my usual solution is to buy CDs rather than MP3s. No compression, no DRM, open standard, permanent physical backup. If a particular song I want is on a CD that's bizarrely overpriced, I'll splurge the $.99 on iTMS.
MattF on May 8, 2008 5:44 AMAmazon mp3 store is very good and has a lot of titles, I use it often. Don't forget places like eMusic either. They also have DRM free MP3s, but they offer a subsciption model. At the high levels you get songs for around 20 cents each. I subscribe at a 2 year subscription, 75 songs per month for 15$ a month. Some of the major artist are not there, but many are and it has really given me a change to find a lot of great music by lesser know artist. So now I use eMusic in conjunction with Amazon to get music I like.
Alan Schrank on May 8, 2008 5:49 AM"Do you honestly believe this is, in any possible universe, a realistic outcome? It's absurd." -- Jeff Atwood, on the possibilities of the iTunes store disappearing, circa 2008.
I hope when someone find this quip when and if the iTunes store goes belly-up because of some colossal failure on Apple's part, they'll be as kind to you as you were to Rob Malda.
It's easy to look back on history and throw barbs at someone for being "out-of-touch" with how things turned out, but it happens, and it happens to all of us. Based on technical features alone, the iPod wasn't competitive with the Nomad. Creative had the superior product if you looked purely at a specification sheet. It was only because of iTunes and the iTunes Music Store that the iPod took off. iTunes made it easy to get music from the Internet onto your iPod; an idea at the time that was not only unheard of, but frowned upon by the music industry.
I think you owe Rob and Slashdot an apology.
Craig Maloney on May 8, 2008 5:56 AMJeff,
Would Apple have reduced iTunes Plus fees from $1.29 to $0.99 if Amazon didn't offer DRM free music for less? Out of the goodness of their heart? Because they love, in Reg's words, "delighting customers"?
I covered this on my blog back in October 07:
http://www.innerexception.com/2007/10/most-likely-reason-apple-lowered-itunes.html
The even shorter version than my post, iTunes Plus tracks at $1.29 were an inducement to the record labels to move their catalog to DRM free. When the major studios didn't take it and instead started supplying Amazon, Apple removed the promise of higher eventual revenue to the labels.
Record companies letting Amazon sell DRM-free music at the same time as requiring that Apple keep DRM on the music that they sell, as anything /but/ unfair on Apple
I covered that on my blog in Jan 08:
http://www.innerexception.com/2008/01/bought-my-first-mp3-album-from-amazon.html
Doesn't matter if the dominant current music store, or really digital media store, is by Apple, Microsoft, or Amazon. Being unhappy about the current situation is not Apple advocacy run amok, its a desire for a truly competitive market for all forms of digital media. The current situation is not "pure competition" as you say, it's obvious the major labels are giving Amazon much better terms than Apple. I don't want, nor do I think anyone who's sane, wants iTunes as the only place to buy legal digital downloads from. I want Amazon, Zune Marketplace, anyone else that wants to have a go. As I say in my post, I may sacrifice buying DRM-free from Amazon, not because I need to prop up Apple the company, but because what I really want is DRM-free for all tracks on both iTunes, Amazon, and anyone else that comes along. Once that happens, and I am still hopeful, I would then most likely buy from iTunes for music exclusively because I think DRM-free AAC (MP4) is a better product (smaller sizes, better device battery life) than MP3s at the same bit rate. You may disagree with me on that, since MP3 is portable to every device, and MP4 is portable to most devices, you may think that is more important than what I think important. That is a truly competitive market.
But I think it is crazy to suggest that Amazon's MP3 store is pro-consumer in the long run. The music and movie studios have always tried to add more DRM, even after its out of the bottle. DVD DRM was broken years ago, you can strip the DRM and reencode pretty freely now with Handbrake, but they went at it again with even more DRM for HD DVD and Blu-ray. Didn't stop them then, won't stop them with digital downloads if the labels (colluded before to price fix CDs, doing it now for DRM-free MP3s from Amazon) believe it's in the best interest.
Dave Murdock on May 8, 2008 6:01 AMSo did the whole issue where Apple refused to budge an inch on variable pricing suddenly go away? Not so long ago all of the hubbub was about Jobs battling with the records execs because he wanted every track on the store to stay the same price. Clearly that issue doesn't bother Amazon, so that could definitely be a factor in why Amazon is getting a better deal.
Jonathon on May 8, 2008 6:01 AMOther sources of DRM-free music:
All sorts of independent music, including jazz and classical:
And for classical music lovers, a fantastic resource, all MP3, no DRM:
David on May 8, 2008 6:02 AMmy experience with amazon is that their download software(needed to buy complete cd's) supports multiple platforms windows, linux and mac. I do not need any software if I am purchasing just one song. Corporate sympathy or loyalty never, only concern I have is how much money does it save me and is it drm free.
steve on May 8, 2008 6:03 AM+1 about buying mp3 outside US, but also I' don't envy that too much, I prefer buying the CD and burn it to FLAC
Juan Zamudio on May 8, 2008 6:03 AMCurious what other people have done about this as I wrestled with the idea for a while:
Have you taken up Apple's offer to upgrade your old FairPlayed downloads to "iTunes Plus" files?
On the plus side you get higher quality files without DRM, on the minus side you have to hand over even more cash.
It was Microsoft's closure of their MSN Music Store that made me upgrade all my tracks. That action made it abundantly clear that a big name doesn't guarantee longevity.
Finally, price and encoding bit-rate are not the only areas that can be fought over. I recently bought an album on iTunes rather than Play.com (we don't get Amazon MP3 in the UK) even though it had DRM because they were offering extra tracks that I couldn't get elsewhere. Apple's size allows them to negotiate these types of exclusive deal.
Stephen Darlington on May 8, 2008 6:06 AMIt's one thing to claim Apple has an addiction to hardware. People have been saying that for years as a way to apologize for the fact that Apple doesn't license the OS to other manufacturers. I don't think it's a particularly compelling argument, but it is one which can at least be discussed.
However, when you say Macintosh computers are DRM for Mac OS, that flies in the face of decades, at this point, of history. Apple has been shipping mostly off-the-shelf hardware now for a few years, but for decades that was not the case. They tried to claim it was superior hardware, and in some ways and for some short periods of time, that was actually true, so you have to give them credit for honestly trying to be better than the herd, even if with the next breath you point out they failed.
You can reasonably claim the Apple of today is merely addicted to hardware, but when you talk about their hardware as DRM, you just sound like a conspiracy theorist who isn't old enough to remember 1984.
For Germans: http://www.musicload.de/
For most places: http//www.magnatune.com/ (was mentioned already)
For most places: http://www.audiolunchbox.com/
For UK at least: http://play.com (also mentioned)
It's simply not true that there's no competition - most people are just too caught up with being sheep that they don't look for alternatives.
Regards
Fake
I've never had a problem with iTunes DRM, only with the availability of music from the store. I think it's a lot worse that you can only buy music that is available in your region. Don't tell me what I can listen to, thank you.
You can always burn and re-rip music if you want to remove the DRM. I don't know why everyone complains about DRM when you can always do this! If you wanted perfect, buy the CD.
Akira on May 8, 2008 6:24 AMA lot of this discussion is around the RIAA and its relationship to digital music. But there is a huge amount of non-RIAA music available on Amazon MP3, often for less than 99 cents a track or $9.99 an album. While independant label sales are still dwarfed by RIAA sales, sources like music blogs and commercial placements are spreading the word. All the music I buy these days are from independant labels; its not even a concious choice, its just the music I like. I would go so far as to advocate a boycott on all music from RIAA sources; one can use this site to see if an album is from an RIAA-affiliated label: http://www.riaaradar.com/
monsur on May 8, 2008 6:36 AM"...while the majority of Apple's iTunes Store catalog is still stuck in the old testament world of DRM customer punishment..."
Owie! Paraphrasing Terry Jones from my son's graduation ceremony last week: always try to offend the most people possible.
About the only thing you could do to make that line even better would be to throw in an insult at the Linux crowd.
David A. Lessnau on May 8, 2008 6:37 AMI live in Belgium, so no Amazon MP3 for me.
Why is it not available ? Well I guess Apple could make a justice case here that the music labels are giving an unfair advantage (no DRM/higher bitrates) to Amazon compared to Apple.
Why are the rules different ?
The music company should have a fixed price independent on what music retailer is selling it. The retailer can calculate some profit margin to pay for the distribution costs and make some money. But in the end, the RULES should be the same.
Even if the rules would be the same, the prices can still be different. People would chose based on ease of use and speed of download.
If Apple decides on the price that they want to pay to the music labels, I can understand that the music industry is not happy with it. It should be the other way around. But that happens when the music industry was trying 100 types of different DRM sites that offered horible end user experience - not taking into account that in the end its the buyers who decides if they charge the right price or not. If they insist on DRM then the price should be extremely low since we are severely limited in how we can use it.
I used to have my favourite music shops to buy vinyl or CD's, my choice was based on proximity, price and availability of Scandinavian Heavy Metal. Now I'm left with no choice at all since I'm living in the wrong country (although, for other things but music it is quite OK to live here).
Cheers!
David on May 8, 2008 6:38 AMIf your dumb enough to buy music from iTunes then I doubt you care or will even notice the DRM.
Joe Beam on May 8, 2008 6:39 AMRe: Ben Karel
Some of us are old enough to remember the joy of having a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_PMP300 when everyone was fumbling with portable CD players. I know, capacity sucked you say. But then, life is about trade-offs.
Sinan
Sinan Unur on May 8, 2008 7:01 AMI find itunes mostly great, but the main problem I have had is that I can't easily share itunes library between different computers. That becomes a problem because I'm not going to buy 2 copies of each song (one for me and one for my wife).
You can authorize up to 5 computers for each iTunes account. You do need to copy the songs to each computer yourself (you can't download them from Apple without buying them again), but that's not very hard if they're all on the same network (or both have an internet connection).
RJ on May 8, 2008 7:05 AM"So, what's the better techie/nerd site?"
Ars Technica?
or better yet...
Google reader? Since basically all Slashdot does is aggregate news and add in god-awful comments.
Jonathon on May 8, 2008 7:30 AMYou're not 'buying' an mp3 from Amazon, you're getting a non-transferable license for 'digital content' which means that the doctrine of first sale doesn't hold ( see here for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine).
Relevant part of the Amazon agreement is below:
2.1 License. Upon your payment of our fees for Digital Content, we grant you a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to use the Digital Content for your personal, non-commercial, entertainment use, subject to and in accordance with the terms of this Agreement. You may copy, store, transfer and burn the Digital Content only for your personal, non-commercial, entertainment use.
2.2 Restrictions. You represent, warrant and agree that you will use the Service only for your personal, non-commercial, entertainment use and not for any redistribution of the Digital Content or other use restricted in this Section 2.2. You agree not to infringe the rights of the Digital Content's copyright owners and to comply with all applicable laws in your use of the Digital Content. Except as set forth in Section 2.1 above, you agree that you will not redistribute, transmit, assign, sell, broadcast, rent, share, lend, modify, adapt, edit, sub-license or otherwise transfer or use the Digital Content. You are not granted any synchronization, public performance, promotional use, commercial sale, resale, reproduction or distribution rights for the Digital Content. You acknowledge that the Digital Content embodies the intellectual property of a third party and is protected by law.
Colossal Squid on May 8, 2008 7:32 AMJeff:
AFAICT, we agree on the most important things:
"It’s delightful that for the moment, we have a choice of where to buy DRM-free music. It’s wonderful that today, we can legally purchase the right to listen to a lot of major label music on DRM-free MP3s...
Buy what you like, where you like."
Although you don't address the issue, don't you agree that it is in *our* best interests for iTMS to be able to offer *all* of its catalog in DRM-free format and to offer said catalog at the same price as Amazon or anyone else?
Reg Braithwaite on May 8, 2008 7:54 AMWhy does everyone think the iPod was the first major MP3 player? I had a Creative Labs Zen Jukebox 20 GB player at least three years before the iPod came out.
The iPod was not the first! What was so revolutionary about the iPod?!?
Carl on May 8, 2008 7:57 AMI personally still prefer buying the old-school cds and ripping mp3s to my computer. I still have some cd players around that don't play mp3 (like my car), and I like listening to music in my car :)
The space/content value of cds is really low these days, but I don't often have DRM issues with those.
Jeff Davis on May 8, 2008 8:00 AMI'm also in the eMusic + Amazon mp3 camp. I like eMusic because it's inexpensive and lets me explore a wide variety of new music. And while eMusic is a subscription service, I don't lose my music if I unsubscribe. I try to clear the stuff I get from Amazon with the RIAA Radar because I just can not in good conscience give my money to the blood thirsty RIAA. With eMusic, I generally don't worry about it, as their focus is on independent labels.
If I can't find what I want on either of those sites, I might go to my local record shop and pick it up. Otherwise I just won't buy it. I did get a couple of free iTunes songs with some concert tickets I bought the other day, so in that case I'll use the iTMS, but otherwise not.
With respect to the price fixing argument:
"But clearly, they can't. There are certain market realities at work here. There's absolutely no historical evidence that a type of media, once it is officially sold DRM free, can somehow revert back to the DRM model."
I really don't think the labels need to go back to DRM to fix the prices. Look at what they did with CDs in the 1990s (http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2000/aug/aug08a_00.html). That was well before Sony was putting rootkits on their CDs. The battle between the labels and Apple's iTMS is more between content and access to consumers. When the labels have options on how they can sell (or resell) their content to consumers, they pretty much name their price. The extensions of terms of copyright and other laws that the labels buy from our government let them ignore their customers completely. If they own the the copyright, they control the supply. You can't easily substitute a copy of The Beatles White Album with a Backstreet Boys record. You could buy a used copy of it (on CD), but that's about your only option other than paying what the labels demand. Digital music provides an even better opportunity for price fixing.
1. You can not buy used digital music.
2. Big retailers who can afford to sell music at a loss ($10 CD at Best Buy) will not be bringing you into a store where they can sell you other things at a higher price to make up for it.
Once the labels solve the "access to consumers" problem, they will charge whatever they want. Consumers will have the choice to:
1. Pay the label's demand.
2. Steal it.
3. Go without.
Then the labels just need to figure out how to get us all to rebuy our music collections every couple of decades (or more frequently - subscriptions!!).
Scott on May 8, 2008 8:20 AMBy the way, folks in the UK may chuckle at your use of the word 'boner'.....don't forget internationalisation issues affect slang too!
Mags on May 8, 2008 8:25 AMThis is no longer blog about programming, but an advertising campaign for Amazon. The battery charger, GPS, programming books, music...what is coming next? Buy buy buy, each post like a new episode of a shopping channel...
tag=codinghorror-20 on May 8, 2008 8:34 AM It's actually much simpler than this:
the record labels realized that the DRM
they asked for from Apple wasn't protecting
them or the artists at all, but in fact,
protecting the Apple iPod lock-in model.
The labels had no choice but to permanently
destroy DRM to regain distribution control
of their own music.
Sure, the customers benefit in the short term. But don't count on it for long. The record labels have lost control of their own content and know it. They *badly* need competition for ITMS to gain leverage in negotiations with Apple. Badly enough that they are willing to take a hit in the short term to reestablish that control.
Certainly iPod lock-in was part of the motivation for going DRM-free with Amazon. But only so far as establishing the largest possible customer base for the competing store. After all, lower prices alone wasn't going to get another store up to ITMS size anytime soon.
I fully expect that once the Amazon store has taken root, the record labels will back in the drivers seat. At that point Amazon will be dependent on the revenue, Jobs will be in a weaker negotiating position, and the terms of the deals from the labels will change.
And then the customers will suffer, again.
highlycaffeinated on May 8, 2008 8:34 AMSimon, I think you have jumped the gun here. Jeff's article is right on target. Last time I checked, I was a consumer. I have stayed away from mp3s for some time now due to DRM. iPod has turned the tide against the DMA and RIAA. DMA and RIAA sought to punish those of us sharing what we PAID for in the first place. Now that iPod does this kind of business, it cuts into theirs. They don't want money now near as much as they want control. If THEY have control, they can have the money....without sharing with Steve Jobs. Without competition, only on entity is control. Someone recently retired (and became a philanthropist) who operated an entire market for years doing the same thing...staying in control. Jeff didn't jump the shark.
Ergo on May 8, 2008 8:41 AMI think this is the part of your blog that Reginald should be printing and pinning to his cubicle wall:
"But let me tell you, I've been emotionally involved with companies before, and it rarely ends well. I find that corporations never reciprocate your love in quite the same way."
gunther on May 8, 2008 8:44 AM@Joe Beam...
There is no reason to call someone dumb for buying music from iTunes. iTunes works well with the iPod (not a coincidence). Apple has a great marketing department and some awesome designers that sold a product to a wide market. I seriously doubt they care much about what a handful of software programmers think.
I, for one, like the simplicity of just clicking to buy a song, syncing it to my iPod and enjoying the music. I'd say I've probably spent a few grand on music in the past 4 years. But, I am also a working bassist that plays session gigs, so I try to support the industry by purchasing music. I realize most of the royalties go to the label for a long time, but dollar votes for the artist keep me working.
Besides, I deal with craptastic processes at work, I just want something that works, and for my needs, iPod and iTunes is the solution.
just my $0.02
Gunther:
Hey thanks, I can always use a little help detaching myself from the situation. For example, here's something I wrote when I was all worked up into a frothing, ranting lather:
http://weblog.raganwald.com/2004/11/sharecropping-in-orchard.html
Reg Braithwaite on May 8, 2008 8:47 AMJeff- why is it that every one of your postings come across as some kind of commercialized pitched for the product of the week? Do you get paid to punt this junk? Furthermore, what does any of this have to do with software development?
ep10 on May 8, 2008 8:56 AMThe comments to this entry are closed.
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