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by Jeff Atwood

June 25, 2007

Supporting Open Source Projects in the Microsoft Ecosystem

As part of my new advertising initiative, Microsoft and I are teaming up to donate $10,000 in support of open source .NET projects.

Why am I focusing on .NET open source projects? In short, because open source projects are treated as second-class citizens in the Microsoft ecosystem. Many highly popular open source projects have contributed so much to the .NET community, and they've gotten virtually no support at all from Microsoft in return. I'd like to see that change. In fact, I'll go even further-- I think it must change if Microsoft wants to survive as a vendor of development tools.

Of course, I'm not the first person to make this observation:

  • Scott Hanselman

    It's a shame that Microsoft can't put together an organization like INETA (who already gives small stipends to folks to speak at User Groups) and gave away grants/stipends to the 20 or so .NET Open Source Projects that TRULY make a difference in measurable ways. The whole thing could be managed out of the existing INETA organization and wouldn't cost more than a few hundred grand - the price of maybe 3-4 Microsoft Engineers.

  • Ayende Rahien

    The open source community in .NET is big, but it is only a fraction of the size of the open source community in other environments (Java, for instance). This disparity can be explained by looking at the basic facts of the .NET community: there's one central vendor, Microsoft. This puts Microsoft in a position where they have the ear of every .NET developer, team lead and architect. And Microsoft isn't doing anything to foster a healthy OSS community around .NET.

  • Dave

    In my company's commercial application we depend upon DotNetNuke, Nant, log4net, NUnit and other open source tools. Those open source projects help support us. In fact, without DNN, we would probably be out of business because our developments costs would be too high. In turn, my company helps support Microsoft through the purchase of licenses and MSDN subscriptions. Yet Microsoft does not complete the circle by financially supporting any of those open source projects.

  • Joe Brinkman

    I believe it is in Microsoft's best interests to identify a handful of open source projects to support, especially where those projects fill a void in the Microsoft product line, or where the project promotes the adoption of Microsoft products. However, I think the project bears even more responsibility to identify how they can benefit a potential corporate sponsor, and then actively pitch the idea to the corporation whose sponsorship is being sought. The project should care more about developing and growing this relationship than the corporate sponsor, since the project could well die without the support, while the corporation only loses one of many potential opportunities.

Open source software is at its best when you aren't obligated to do anything at all other than use it. But given the disappointing lack of official support for open source projects in the Microsoft .NET ecosystem, it's time for us to band together and do something about it. When Anand mentioned that he could match my $5,000 donation with funds from Microsoft, I was thrilled. This is a fantastic opportunity for Microsoft to step up to the plate and make their support for open source .NET projects explicit in a very public way.

Here are my initial thoughts on splitting up the $10,000:

  • Three donations of $2,500 for the most worthy established .NET open source projects.
  • Five donations of $500 for new, up and coming .NET open source projects.

I'd also like to see this become a yearly event. As long as my advertising revenues hold up, I'm certainly willing to contribute a percentage back to the community every year.

All of this will be determined by popular vote, of course. Let's start by getting together a list of candidates. I'm soliciting nominations. Which .NET open source projects do you find most useful?

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I nominate MbUnit. It's hands down the best unit testing tool out there.

Are you focusing on projects that don't already have a corporate backer? For example, CruiseControl.NET is pretty well supported by ThoughtWorks.

Haacked on June 27, 2007 12:30 AM

my vote goes to ItextSharp.

it's a port of the iText open source java library written entirely in C# for the .NET platform. iText# is a library that allows you to generate PDF files on the fly. It is implemented as an assembly.

http://itextsharp.sourceforge.net/

its really amazing. you can create pdfs on the fly, add digital signatures, ...

cheers, Andy
novastar22 at yahoo dot de

Andy on June 27, 2007 12:31 AM

I second MbUnit and raise you the whole Castle project.

Scott Hanselman on June 27, 2007 12:56 AM

Open source doesn't need money to become solid, it needs attention. Just throwing money at open source is what MS is doing for years and it hasn't payed off. The reason for that is that the mentality of the average developer on MS platforms is that you simply pay for controls, libraries and tools and if you work on these products, you get payed.

You won't hear me complain about that mentality, as an owner of an ISV which targets .NET, I like that mentality from a business POV and with me all the other ISV's which do the same: target .NET. :)

For open source, that mentality isn't that great: less people are interested in devoting large piles of time to a project and when it's released, the majority of developers often won't even think about looking for an OSS alternative to commercial offerings.

THATs what's lacking in the MS' ecosystem for open source. You can throw money at it, but that mentality won't change. One of the core reasons it won't change is because MS won't let it be changed: if it does change, their days are numbered.

Frans Bouma on June 27, 2007 12:58 AM

CMS using ASP .Net, VB .Net and SQL server.
Simple yet flexible.

Petter Andreassen on June 27, 2007 12:59 AM

Oh, and dasBlog also. ;)

Scott Hanselman on June 27, 2007 1:03 AM

> Open source doesn't need money to become solid, it needs attention.

I agree, but we have to crawl before we can walk. There will soon be open source MVPs, from what I hear..

> Just throwing money at open source is what MS is doing for years and it hasn't payed off.

When has MS "thrown money" at open source? I've cited multiple blog posts above from people who ask for exactly that, so educate us, Frans. I realize that money is not the answer to all problems, but it's a great starting point for a larger conversation.

Jeff Atwood on June 27, 2007 1:06 AM

Would a small consideration be enough to get the NDoc project up and running again with support for .NET 2.0? It's more than a shame that this project died due to lack of financial support (OK, that was *one* of the reasons) before Sandcastle was ready to take over.

David Keaveny on June 27, 2007 1:12 AM

ZedGraph (easy & flexible charting) is the absolute killer .NET open source tool, better even than most commercial products. MBUnit and Reflector would also be on my list.

Hermann Klinke on June 27, 2007 1:17 AM

SubSonic, of course.

Carlos M Perez on June 27, 2007 1:22 AM

Team Media Portal.

Viv Paton on June 27, 2007 1:25 AM

While Reflector is great, it's not open source.

Matthijs van der Vleuten on June 27, 2007 1:32 AM

I would say:
CruiseControl.NET, MbUnit, and, since Scott mentioned dasBlog, I'd also say Subtext :)

Simone on June 27, 2007 1:49 AM

Definitely the Castle project and NHibernate, i couldn't work without them.

Franz on June 27, 2007 1:52 AM

Maybe the SharpDevelop?

nasty on June 27, 2007 1:54 AM

DasBlog, NUnit, iText
Ndoc or other sandcastle gui

Ignat Andrei on June 27, 2007 1:55 AM

Franz: I totally agree with Castle, but NHibernate is sponsored by JBoss, and NHibernate developers are paid for full time maintentnce of the project.

nasty on June 27, 2007 1:57 AM

As someone who has developed multiple OpenSource projects on Windows, I have issues with .NET.

First off, are all the various .NET's licenses one has to agree to in order to work under the system GPL compatible? Microsoft has been known to craft EULAs with the specific purpose of making them GPL-incompatable. I'm guessing there's some way to do it, as a gcc-based Ada compiler has been ported (http://www.usafa.af.mil/df/dfcs/bios/mcc_html/a_sharp.cfm ). However, a quick search online indicates that the license associated with the Ajax controls, among others, is incompatible. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses , the Ms-PL, Ms-CL, Ms-LPL, and Ms-LCL are all incompatible.

I'd have to read every EULA very carefully to be sure I'm legal. See the previous entry in this blog about people not liking to read EULAs.

Add to this Microsoft's recent use of lawyers against volunteer developers ( http://haacked.com/archive/2007/06/01/did-microsoft-violate-testdriven.nets-eula-to-defend-its-own-eula.aspx ), and .NET just doesn't seem all that friendly a platform to me.

T.E.D. on June 27, 2007 1:59 AM

Another vote for the Castle project - not only is their code awesome, but the simplicity of their ideas seems to be contributing to some great discussions on .NET.

Colin Ramsay on June 27, 2007 2:05 AM

Just throwing in what we use, ranking them seems unfair:
NAnt, NUnit, log4net, CruiseControl.net, NCover.

Scott on June 27, 2007 2:12 AM

"there's one central vendor, Microsoft"

We can change that. Please consider donating some of your new funds to the Mono Project (http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page).

Raving Free Software Lunatic on June 27, 2007 2:25 AM

This is an excellent step forward. I hope Microsoft continue to respond positively.

X on June 27, 2007 2:35 AM

iTextSharp

http://itextsharp.sourceforge.net/

Fabrizio on June 27, 2007 2:50 AM

Paint.NET is a gorgeous piece of free software -- by both definitions, in that it costs $0.00 ("free as in beer") and is covered by the MIT License (presumably the X11 Licence) which the FSF considers to be GPL compatible.

It's not a dev tool in the normal sense, but it's immensely useful as a replacement for the standard Windows Paint program with pretty much all the features I can imagine needing from more expensive tools like PhotoShop. I think it deserves recognition and money.

Eric TF Bat on June 27, 2007 2:53 AM


Not earth shattering, but this was the first one that comes to mind and my department is actually using it.

http://www.ifdefined.com/bugtrackernet.html

brian on June 27, 2007 2:54 AM

I nominate Paint.NET. Great UI and great potential. Maybe enough momentum behind this can set it on the path towards replacing GIMP as the FOSS Photoshop contender (assuming, of course, it runs on Mono and assuming the eventual acceptance of Mono).

brian on June 27, 2007 2:56 AM

I nominate http://www.umbraco.org/

Why? Because it's not only a .NET 2.0 based open source CMS that runs on MSSQL. It's truly the best sweet-spot CMS out there that I've seen during my 8 years in the CMS industry. It even won two prices for the best supporting and active community and for it's excellent integration capabilities at BNP 2006 (http://www.bnp.dk/227.0.html).

Kenneth Solberg on June 27, 2007 3:05 AM

Castle
RSS Bandit
Argotic

NDoc 2.0 to rise from the ashes but I think this is too little too late.

Mike Minutillo on June 27, 2007 3:22 AM

Wonderful idea! Finally someone is finally putting some money where his/her mouth is! Way to go!

@Raving Free Software Lunatic : Mono is very well funded and taken care of by Novell. Trust me (I used to work for them until about 3 days back) on this one, what they really need is some hands at writing code (good code ie)

I would love to nominate PAINT.NET, but I guess it is quite well supported already. It is by far the most useful app I have used.

I would really suggest that to sponsor more upcoming projects than the ones that are already well established, since they usually have some corporate backing if they are working with .NET

How about creating a list of ideas that you want implemented and they putting a price (prize ;) ;)) tag on it!

Shivanand on June 27, 2007 3:39 AM

I nominate Cuyahoga. It's a brilliantly simple CMS for .NET 2.0, with module and skin development made quite easy. I think they could use some more support.

Whever on June 27, 2007 3:58 AM

BlogEngine.net

Its new and is well on its way to competing with WordPress.

Clarence on June 27, 2007 4:03 AM

"When has MS "thrown money" at open source? I've cited multiple blog posts above from people who ask for exactly that, so educate us, Frans. I realize that money is not the answer to all problems, but it's a great starting point for a larger conversation."
Well, gotdotnet, codeplex, these sites have teams behind them, custom made software was made for these sites, 3rd party maintenance teams are maintaining the hardware etc., that's costing money. Left alone the community efforts all over the place to support more community participation by developers out there, which leads to more free open tools.

I've written a lot of open source code (for example last year I released a big forum/customer support system for ASP.NET under the GPL, complete with UBB LR(n) parser system etc.) and am roaming in OSS groups for years. The main question I have when I see your post is: how will giving money to a random set of projects suddenly make people more aware that one can contribute and use open source code? I see absolutely no reason why giving away money would have that effect at all. I appreciate your effort and hats off for that, but I don't see how it can be effective.

In fact, the whole MS platform eco system isn't suitable for open source tools to become very effective. As soon as they do, MS will come with an equivalent, and what's worse: large droves of developers don't even know how to spell open source, left alone that they're even looking for open source projects, they simply look at Redmond and wait till MS comes with something.

In the Java community, things are completely the opposite. The whole eco-system around Java is simply build on top of the open source model: libraries and tools are very often free and open source. The business model of java oriented companies is build around providing services, not by selling licenses. On the MS platform this is the opposite.

Promoting open source is therefore an uphill battle, if not an impossible battle. Uphill, because the mentallity of the average mort is totally not focussed on open source in any shape or form, and impossible because MS has such a strong focus on controlling the market ontop of its own platform, they're totally not interested in changing the mentallity of mort at all. There are numerous examples out there, nunit and ndoc being two of the most well known. Instead of supporting nunit and mbunit, MS rolls their own unittest runner, incompatible with the open source ones, and hires the mbunit main developer. NDoc dies because the main developer has no time anymore. Instead of working WITH that code, MS releases a half-baked beta of a never-going-to-be-released toolkit called Sandcastle.

Two examples where Microsoft could have supported a beginning eco-system of open source toolkits. Instead, they effectively killed them off. Sure, both are still used, but not as wide-spread as MS' offerings. And _THAT_ is precisely the point.

So again, hats off for your initiative and motivation, but I have little hope (none actually) that this will help at all, simply because it won't solve the core problem why there's no healthy eco system for OSS / free toolkits on .NET like there is on Java.

Frans Bouma on June 27, 2007 4:09 AM

No nominations here, but...

What about codeplex? I would consider setting up an exclusively .net sourceforge knockoff pretty supportive. And I say knockoff loveingly, I think it's a great service with tons of extremely supportive features.

With regards to adds...what happened to the time delay? And your "don't make them click" full RSS philosophy counts for nothing when you pushing ads at us over RSS.

Ok, maybe one nomination, how about WorldWind?
http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/

Michael on June 27, 2007 4:13 AM

The whole Castle project. Castle Windsor and MonoRail are the best!

Torkel on June 27, 2007 4:31 AM

I'd vote for SubSonic also.

I'm not sure if Rob would take the money personally (although he deserves it) but I think some of his team deserve some recompense for their hard work and effort.

I think I heard one member has been passing up paid work to allow more time to work on the project and help the community.

Remmus on June 27, 2007 4:34 AM

I think Watin and Watin Test Recorder do an amazing job for asp.net integration testing! Those projects earn my vote.

Nik on June 27, 2007 4:45 AM

NUnit, NAnt, NDoc (please come back), ahnksvn, Castle. I don't care for blog engines b/c they are not .Net developer tools per se.

Sergio Pereira on June 27, 2007 5:02 AM

I second Watin! I've shown it to our testers and actually got them interested in automation.

Trevor on June 27, 2007 5:07 AM

+1 to Castle and nHibernate

Bill Pierce on June 27, 2007 5:23 AM

Another vote for the Mono Project to support their development of porting Silverlight to Linux :)

Chris Jones on June 27, 2007 5:30 AM

SubSonic. Without a doubt.

It's given me a whole new outlook on ASP.NET development.

Matt Blodgett on June 27, 2007 5:35 AM

+1 for Umbraco - www.umbraco.org

Daniel Bjørnbakk on June 27, 2007 5:38 AM

What an small slice for FileHelpers:

http://www.filehelpers.com

We help a lot of developers and companies to avoid the pain of flat file handling, we want to create a full open source solution to exchange data in flat file format between applications, and some motivation is really needed.

A description from the site:

"You can strong type your flat file (fixed or delimited) simply describing a class that maps to each record and later read/write your file as an strong typed .NET array"

Thanks a lot to you and MS for this change

Marcos Meli
Open Source Developer
FileHelpers

Marcos Meli on June 27, 2007 5:41 AM

MbUnit and Rhino.Mocks

No doubt the two most important open source tools I use every day.

Jeremy on June 27, 2007 5:45 AM

"In fact, I'll go even further-- I think it must change if Microsoft wants to survive as a vendor of development tools."

Do we really want it to survive? We should be putting our money behind open-source projects that support open-source projects, not Microsoft. What the open-source community should really be supporting isn't some framework that only Windows users can use, but PORTABLE projects across several operating systems, including Linux, Windows, MorphOS and Amiga. So, if your going to throw your money at a group for a particular programming language make it REBOL. Make it Perl. Make it Scheme. Make it any portable programming language. Not .Net. Not C#. Not Visual Basic. Not Visual C++.

Joe on June 27, 2007 5:51 AM

I nominate the Commerce Starter Kit @ http://www.commercestarterkit.org

Chris on June 27, 2007 5:53 AM

@Frans:

Let me disagree with u a bit.

The money is very important for a lot of developers, if some open source developer get a donation sure it will work hard to release versions oftem or to support user faster.

Is very frustrating give suport for free and dont get a thank u after solve the other problems (check some cases here http://www.filehelpers.com/forums )

Anyway I love what I do, but I do some freelance work apart of my daily job, so if I get a donation I can invest some more time with my project. At the end, is all about money :P and M$ know it.

Best Regards

Marcos Meli on June 27, 2007 5:54 AM

Subsonic!

Alex on June 27, 2007 5:57 AM

SubSonic!!

Another vote for SubSonic. I work with a small crew with a lot of demand and this project has made our work life a WHOLE lot easier.

The team is great and very responsive to issues and questions. I couldn't think of a better project to nominate for this.

JimShelly on June 27, 2007 6:00 AM

In Order:

SubSonic, SharpDevelop, NAnt, MbUnit

Ryan on June 27, 2007 6:08 AM

Castle and Monorail

Brandon on June 27, 2007 6:10 AM

Definately ibatis.net

Mark on June 27, 2007 6:13 AM

+1 CruiseControl.NET
+1 SharpDevelop

But above all, +several thousand for the Mono project, for making .NET live up to its potential.

Jeroen on June 27, 2007 6:18 AM

My vote is for...

SubSonic (and/or the Commerce Starter Kit)
BlogEngine.Net (this counts as the "up and coming" project right?)
or dasBlog
Castle Project

Some people say blogs shouldn't count (only development tools should) but I disagree. I'd like to see the non-.Net people benefit from some of this. I want to see a Java developer running a .Net blog, for instance.

I would also like to anti-vote for iTextSharp. It's more of a port from iText than a C# equivalent. I mean it doesn't even follow naming conventions. It's also a pain in the ass with which to work. Boo to iTextSharp.

Microsoft money going to the Mono project would be very interesting.

frank on June 27, 2007 6:20 AM

My votes are:
+ NUnit
+ Castle project
+ dasBlog
+ SubSonic

Projects I'd happily see get a donation:
+ Cuyahoga
+ Subtext
+ MbUnit
+ StructureMap

Ben Scheirman on June 27, 2007 6:31 AM

SubSonic. We really need to shut those Ruby on Rails guys up :)

Scott Kuhl on June 27, 2007 6:36 AM

ZedGraph.

I recently needed a graphing library for an open source .net project I was working on and ZedGraph came through with honors ;)

Lucas on June 27, 2007 6:37 AM

My vote goes to NLog and NUnit. SharpZipLib is cool, too, not sure if it counts as a separate project or if it's a part of SharpDevelop.

IronPython and F# are great, too, but is MS already sponsoring these.

BTW: most votes (like mine) seem to go to "established" projects - I'd love to read more about "up, new and coming" projects!

Niki on June 27, 2007 6:42 AM

+1 for Castle and Rhino Mocks. Couldn't live without them!

Ben on June 27, 2007 6:45 AM

SubSonic. easily the most time-saving tool out there.

and +1 for all the usual suspects like NUnit/MBUnit, Rhino Mocks, etc..

dave thieben on June 27, 2007 6:45 AM

I have an up-and-coming open source project:

NBusiness
http://www.codeplex.com/NBusiness

It's coming along pretty well, almost ready for v2 release and I have lots of plans for the next release too.

Two of my favorite, more well established open source .net applications have to be NUnit and TestDriven.NET. You might also consider Paint.NET, it's not a developer library but it is an excellent .net open source application that I use almost every day!

Justin Chase on June 27, 2007 6:45 AM

Since most people will probably nominate open source standards like NUnit, NAnt, Rhino Mocks etc, I would like to mention some other OS projects which I find very useful:
+ CS-Script (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~olegshilo/)
+ ZedGraph (http://zedgraph.org/)
+ DockPanelSuite (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dockpanelsuite/)

Igor Brejc on June 27, 2007 6:50 AM

I second NDoc. SubSonic is great too!

Ryan on June 27, 2007 6:59 AM

I would like to nominate

- SubSonic
- The Commerce Starter Kit (CSK)

both of them are makink my life a lot easier :-)

Oliver on June 27, 2007 7:10 AM

Fantastic idea - here are my votes:


1. An order of magnitude more important than all other open source .net efforts:

Mono
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page


2. So ubiquitous, why is this not in the framework:

#ziplib
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SharpZipLib/


3. An independent viable open source ruby implementation:

Gardens Point Ruby.NET Compiler
http://plas2003.fit.qut.edu.au/Ruby.NET/


4. Almost makes sandcastle a viable alternative to ndoc (almost):

Sandcastle Help File Builder
http://www.codeplex.com/SHFB

John Spurlock on June 27, 2007 7:11 AM

Net Tiers great ORM
http://www.nettiers.com/
SQLite
http://www.sqlite.org/

Aaron Fischer on June 27, 2007 7:12 AM

I second all Lutz Roeder tools

Massimo Gentilini on June 27, 2007 7:13 AM

I've got three, I know I saw votes for two of them already:

- SharpDevelop
- SourceGrid
- iTextSharp

I'll put as many votes in for SharpDevelop as I can!

Stephen Paskaluk on June 27, 2007 7:16 AM

And, on second thougts, the screwturn wiki engine (http://www.screwturn.eu) because it's the first Wiki made with .Net I'm happy to use.

Massimo Gentilini on June 27, 2007 7:18 AM

SubText
Mono
#ZipLib
Log4Net

Eric D. Burdo on June 27, 2007 7:20 AM

SubSonic, NAnt, NUnit

Sean on June 27, 2007 7:20 AM

Definately Paint.NET and BlogEngine.NET

Dustin on June 27, 2007 7:23 AM

+1 SubSonic
+1 Subtext
+1 Subversion??
+1 NUnit

Jeremy on June 27, 2007 7:27 AM

Long list of worthy projects. My votes:

SubSonic
Commerce Starter Kit
dasBlog

RJD on June 27, 2007 7:28 AM

SubSonic (http://subsonicproject.com/)
JayRock (.net json parser - very lovely :: http://jayrock.berlios.de/)

cmv on June 27, 2007 7:35 AM

NUnit, SharpDevelop and Paint.NET if applicable.

Federico on June 27, 2007 7:36 AM

Lucene .NET port. Probably the best open source software library I've used. A few good engineers could build something based on Lucene in a month which would rival something like Autonomy which costs 100s of thousands of $$$ to license. But still there are lots of IR algorithms NOT in Lucene yet, that should get put into it.

Bob Stewart on June 27, 2007 7:37 AM

Frans wrote:
"In fact, the whole MS platform eco system isn't suitable for open source tools to become very effective."

*bing*bing*bing* We have a winner.

If you really want to make OSS more prevalent on the .NET platform, this is the problem that needs to be attacked. There are things you can do with money that would help with that, but I don't see chucking money at the most successful apps being one of them.

How about something like setting up a SourceForge equivalent for .NET apps? Perhaps its not the best idea, but that's the *kind* of idea that should be looked at; something that helps make OSS developers more productive, and/or helps interested users find projects they might be interested in.

However, any progress you make is liable to be totally undone the next time some lawyer in some arm of Microsoft gets it in their head to attack OSS again. I don't see anything your $10K is gonna be able to do about that.

T.E.D. on June 27, 2007 7:38 AM

http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/ deserves some recognition. Its the best .NET provider for SQLite.

MJT on June 27, 2007 7:39 AM

So here you have all of these people raving about the OSS projects/products that are making their lives easier and I just have to wonder how many of them have contributed anything at all to these projects themselves?

Do we need Jeff to go out and get a list so that HE can contribute something on our behalf? How many of you who raved about Paint.NET actually clicked on the "donate" link and sent in a few dollars? BTW, I have.

Get off of your lazy butts and do this yourself instead of bashing Microsoft for not contributing to the tools that YOU say are helping YOU save time and money!

"I find Paint.NET userful and think it's a great program. Why isn't Microsoft paying them money so that I can continue to use it for free?". Sheesh!

Matt on June 27, 2007 7:45 AM

BTW... can someone please flip Subsonic a quarter so that they can change their "catch phrase" so that it is at least grammatically correct? I'm certainly no expert on grammar but seeing stuff like that just makes me want to run away. Far away...

Matt on June 27, 2007 7:49 AM

+1 for NUnit. Besides your noble initiative this post provides an additional benefit: the comments are a great place to get an overview over the latest collection of useful tools. Maybe worth a post by itself...

Manu on June 27, 2007 8:00 AM

http://www.commercestarterkit.org/

Hugh on June 27, 2007 8:07 AM

Michael Schwarz's Ajax.NET Professional

http://www.ajaxpro.info/

Caleb on June 27, 2007 8:19 AM

Mono Project !!!

Dave on June 27, 2007 8:25 AM

I vote for NUnit, RhinoMocks and Subversion.

Jan Van Ryswyck on June 27, 2007 8:36 AM

"BTW... can someone please flip Subsonic a quarter so that they can change their "catch phrase" so that it is at least grammatically correct? I'm certainly no expert on grammar but seeing stuff like that just makes me want to run away. Far away... " Matt

Matt Please See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us

kaz on June 27, 2007 8:39 AM

You've hit the nail squarely on the head. Microsoft doesn't believe in Open Source because they look at Open Source as a competitor to the way they do business.

Every once in a while, Microsoft will start going through the motions of supporting Open Source, but then either Microsoft loses interest or some sort of power struggle took place, and strategic plans get changed. Part of the problem is the natural suspicion that many Open Source people (especially Linux users) have with Microsoft, but much of that is the suspicion Microsoft has with the Open Source community. To many managers at Microsoft, Open Source is a communistic movement which is out to destroy our American/Microsoft way of life.

Other major companies like Google, IBM, and even Sun actually not only provide financial support for the Open Source community (like Google's Summer of Code), but hire employees whose primary job it is just to work on Open Source projects. It's not that these companies are being altruistic. It's that their business strategy is dependent upon Open Source.

IBM is dropping it's own version of Unix, AIX, in favor of Linux. Google depends upon its own versions of the various Open Source tools to keep its servers up and running. And, of course, Solaris was originally based upon BSD, and most of the networking tools Sun needs are Open Source tools.

David on June 27, 2007 8:42 AM

I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned DotNetNuke. It's a pretty big one and offers a ton of functionality. Is it that the audience here doesn't use it? It a victim of it's own success and people don't think it needs financial support? I'm curious...

Matt on June 27, 2007 8:59 AM

A project I haven't seen mentioned so far that I use is Selenium Remote Control for .net - http://www.openqa.org/selenium-rc/

Jeff on June 27, 2007 9:19 AM

http://www.commercestarterkit.org/

RonV on June 27, 2007 9:20 AM

Another +1 for the Castle Project. I wouldn't want to develop without it.

Brian on June 27, 2007 9:25 AM

NHibernate first
RhinoMock second
Castle third
I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting money toward any OSS that is voted for in your post. Not because of some profound ideology that certain folks think needs to drive every decision revolving around Open Source, but because it is always nice to get a 'atta-boy' in the form of $$$ and certainly can't HURT an Open Source project.

Mike on June 27, 2007 9:28 AM

Hate to belittle all the work that's been done, and maybe some can provide comments otherwise but…

Won't Mono fundamentally be killed by Silverlight and Subsonic by Linq.

Obviously these projects still have a need to be supported for existing development. For new projects I don't think I would wander into these territories again.

Comments?

Martin on June 27, 2007 9:30 AM

> Other major companies like Google, IBM, and even Sun actually not only provide financial support for the Open Source community (like Google's Summer of Code), but hire employees whose primary job it is just to work on Open Source projects.

Newsflash: MS has been doing this for a while. Take IronPython for example, or WTL or WiX.

Niki on June 27, 2007 9:32 AM

That is easy vote, at least for me. Castle

Shawn C on June 27, 2007 9:33 AM

> Lucene .NET port. Probably the best open source software library I've used. ..
> Bob Stewart on June 27, 2007 07:37 AM

I would second this suggestion as this is a well-done and FAST search engine.

It is currently in incubation under the Apache Software Foundation. Not sure how much their contribution needs are compared to some smaller groups, however.

http://incubator.apache.org/lucene.net/

dh on June 27, 2007 9:46 AM

@Frans Bouma,

> For open source, that mentality isn't that great: less people are
> interested in devoting large piles of time to a project and when
> it's released, the majority of developers often won't even think
> about looking for an OSS alternative to commercial offerings.

I'm not too sure about that. There are plenty of companies out there (classic example, startups) that would go with the open (and often free) route to getting their offering off the ground. Also, OSS developers don't develop their product with a particular business model or idea in mind, IMO.

> The main question I have when I see your post is: how will giving
> money to a random set of projects suddenly make people more aware
> that one can contribute and use open source code?

Well, for one, what Jeff's trying to do is get a feel for what projects out there people are really interested in. If there's genuine interest in these projects, and Jeff and I both think this is a worthwhile investment of our $$. As far as awareness goes, we're hoping the contributors accomplishments and the usefulness of the project will raise awareness. I don't think that's the only criteria, because there are several OSS projects out there that are not being used heavily, but the sheer concept is so beautiful that there's an entire ecosystem of contributors on that project. So, only time will tell.

> In fact, the whole MS platform eco system isn't suitable for open
> source tools to become very effective.

I'd have to agree with you - but that's something I'd like to change. In fact, there are teams in Redmond that are working on core components that are also realizing the value behind opening up the source in some cases - the AJAX control toolkit being a great example - http://www.codeplex.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ProjectName=AtlasControlToolkit

> Instead of working WITH that code, MS releases a half-baked beta of
> a never-going-to-be-released toolkit called Sandcastle.

I hope you're only exaggearating. Just to set the record straight - Sandcastle will be released.

ai

anand iyer on June 27, 2007 9:50 AM

+1 for Paint.net.

Brad on June 27, 2007 10:02 AM

SubSonic indeed.

kevin on June 27, 2007 10:05 AM

@ anand:
"I'm not too sure about that. There are plenty of companies out there (classic example, startups) that would go with the open (and often free) route to getting their offering off the ground. Also, OSS developers don't develop their product with a particular business model or idea in mind, IMO."
The main problem is, what's also described by a person earlier in the comments: devoting time to an OSS project is effectively eating away time to do commercial work. if you have to pay some bills, you better have some other sources of money, otherwise you can't work on OSS software, at least not with a lot of time.

So what happens? In java land for example, companies pay large groups of developers money to work on tools for java which are open sourced. The companies then sell services on top of these tools/libraries/servers. So to be able to do so, they provide their own platform for their business model by providing the open source stuff they release.

In .NET land, an ISV who wants to use this model runs into a big wall, which I've described also here in a blogpost I made in last december:
http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2006/12/11/the-reason-why-oss-isn-t-big-in-ms-net-land-money.aspx
and which is that on average, the .NET targeting developer thinks along these lines:
1) the time I put into something has to be payed
and
2) if I need something from a 3rd party, I look for a commercial offering, or use MS' tools (first choice)

Maybe some OSS developers start their project just to get started. However as soon as something begins to become successful, you have to provide support, fix bugs, add new features etc. etc. 10 to 1 the vast majority here has never contributed a single line of code to any open source software project and only uses the open source products because they're ..... free (as in beer). When you have to spend time on supporting your OSS project as no-one else does (and believe me, even if a lot of people use your stuff, just a tiny little fraction actually provides patches and new features), you'll have to make a choice:
1) drop it
2) go full scale for it and get some money via other routes

Now, you might argue: this action from Jeff and others can help with 2), but that's not true: there are more than just a couple of projects out there which have some followers and support can become rather intense pretty quickly.

Furthermore, make no mistake: Mono and for example NHibernate are projects owned by a big company (Mono by Novell, NHibernate by JBoss which is owned by Red Hat): you want to donate money to these big corporations? Why? Invest it in tiny projects like NDoc, and even then... it's better to provide a better eco system where Microsoft doesn't step on initiative from the community and simply supports OSS tools out there which are used by more than a few people (like nunit, nant etc.) instead of rolling their own copied incompatible version.

However no sign on the horizon from redmond that you will do that. On the contrary.

"I'd have to agree with you - but that's something I'd like to change. "
I appreciate the initiative, but unless MS changes its own business model (from ISV to service provider) you'll likely meet a lot of closed doors, simply because what MS doesn't control is a liability: vs.net is a commercial product, relying on a 3rd party app is making things vulnerable inside itself, so MS has to roll its own.

You come with an example where MS provides the source. Great example. The thing is though: that's NOT what should be changed. MS should work _together_ with open source projects started by others, outside MS, and make sure these project don't hit a wall because MS thinks they have to do their own copied version of the same project. Until that changes, there's no OSS eco system on MS platforms simply because there's no start with the change of mentallity with the average developer using .net dev tools: they then still will see MS' only tools and if MS doesn't have it, they'll still look for commercial offerings. It's what MS calls the '3rd party oppertunity' which is still there but the particular 3rd party is in most developer's minds a commercial ISV.

"Just to set the record straight - Sandcastle will be released."
No offence, but how long is Sandcastle still in pre-beta stage? How long till some toolkit is released which benefits every single developer out there? It's not that the commercial offerings don't work, it's just that IF you want an eco system for OSS tools, you should support a community OSS offering which was already there: NDoc, not release something of your own. Because by doing that, you will effectively KILL precisely what you want to build up: why would new developers try to re-animate ndoc if MS comes with sandcastle? The answer to that question should be the direction into which MS should look. :)

Frans Bouma on June 27, 2007 10:17 AM

log4net, Mono, Lucene.NET

Derek on June 27, 2007 10:24 AM

The open source tools I would like to see on the list of receiving donations: NUnit, Rhino.Mocks and Ahnksvn. I'd really like to see that GhostDoc (http://www.roland-weigelt.de/ghostdoc/) also gets a piece of the cake, even though it is not open source (but still free, as in "free beer").

.NetKicks on June 27, 2007 10:27 AM

Isn't building free software on top of a closed platform an awkward solution ? I guess it's an important factor that cannot be overcome by simply throwing money in the game. Who wants to build software on top of a platform whose producer can change the rules whenever they like (and have an history of doing so) ? It's nice to see that they're getting somewhat involved into some open source but I fear their only motivation is to gain traction behind their platform and thus entire Windows product line. Unless they change their politics, I fear they'll only have a marginal support from the community.

Maybe I'm wrong but most FOSS coder I know are educated, know the dark Microsoft history and won't get tricked that easily.

Cheers,
zimbatm

zimbatm on June 27, 2007 10:31 AM

Obviously Mono should be the #1 contender. Aside from the fact that the team has done a tremendous job in porting the framework, there is the added bonus in that Microsoft officially giving money to support the Open Source port of it's framework might put Microsoft in an interesting position should Microsoft ever decide to weld it's "you've violated our patents" sword against the Mono project.


Scott on June 27, 2007 10:40 AM

Won't Silverlight kill Mono?
(I know it's not a full implementation, but it's pretty stout).

Won't Linq kill Subsonic?

Personally I wouldn't prefer to donate to something that I will continue to use.

I vote for Subversion.

Comments?

Martin on June 27, 2007 10:48 AM

Maybe we could throw a bit of money at SourceSafe in an attempt to make it even close to par with Subversion?

(And yes, that's +1 vote for Subversion ::: http://subversion.tigris.org/)

MbUnit, too, while we are at it.

gemils on June 27, 2007 10:51 AM

nasty,
Just to point out, JBoss is employing a single NHibernate developer, the rest of NHibernate contributers are not employed by JBoss.

Ayende Rahien on June 27, 2007 11:10 AM

Castle, NHibernate, SVN, NUnit/MBUnit

Dru on June 27, 2007 11:26 AM

Donate it to Jamie's TDD.NET legal defense fund

John S. on June 27, 2007 11:30 AM

> I vote for Subversion.

Subversion is not written in .NET and therefore is ineligible. Sorry if I wasn't clear about this.

Jeff Atwood on June 27, 2007 11:35 AM

Oren, I wasn't trying to offend you, if I did, sorry for that. My point was that if the NHibernate projects needs money, the project owning company (Red Hat) should provide that money. It's not for nothing that they employ the main developer (which IMHO is a way to support the project with money and to guarantee there's always at least one developer full time on the project, precisely what this initiative tries to accomplish for other projects. It's now up to the mind change inside the heads of all these Morts out there ;))

Frans Bouma on June 27, 2007 11:36 AM

SubSonic without question.

Dominick on June 27, 2007 11:44 AM

NDoc because after nearly a year of Sandcastle CTPs it seems MS won't be able to come up with a decent documentation product.

joe on June 27, 2007 11:50 AM

Frans,
No offense was implied or taken :-)

Ayende Rahien on June 27, 2007 11:54 AM

> Open source doesn't need money to become solid, it needs attention.

And nothing gets people's attention like money! ;)

This isn't the only grassroot effort going on to support OSS on .NET. http://haacked.com/archive/2007/06/27/christmas-for-.net-open-source-came-early-this-year.aspx

I really think we can extend the incubator idea Rob had to existing projects and also form some sort of organization to provide OSS mentoring. I'd be happy to teach the hard lessons I've learned, as well as learn from those who've run projects even more successful than mine.

Haacked on June 27, 2007 12:02 PM

Paint.NET or NUnit would be my nominations.

Chris Howell on June 27, 2007 12:05 PM

Commerce starter kit csk

Isaac on June 27, 2007 12:06 PM

SubSonic

adminjew on June 27, 2007 12:23 PM

How about telling us about the details?

What is the purpose of the money exactly? Paying programming hours? Giving a Thank You notice.. here's some money? Paying for some expenses? I mean how long will the money have an effect on the development in terms of incentives. I mean $500 won;t keep some developers cranking code forever.

I have seen some suggestions for projects that are well established. I would rather see more money devoted for young good projects which need more support to stand on their feet.

Abdu on June 27, 2007 12:25 PM

@Ayende and @Frans

Frans is right about that project owned by a company are stablished now and dont need the money or that must be provided by theirs companies.

ie MONO will dont go slower or faster if they get 2500 more bucks, I think that Jeff want to help comunity driven projects that are "OWNED" by the community.

BTW, some comments suggest soft that is not open source like TDD.NET or Lutz Roeder is clear for the article that them dont qualify

Cheers

Marcos on June 27, 2007 12:36 PM

I think Bill Gates made $10,000 in the time it look for this webpage to load.

I think we should consider smaller projects where this could help, not large projects that already have money via corporate sponsorship (like mono) or commercial support (like dotnetnuke I assume).

Actually I think a better idea is to give the money to specific tasks like google summer of code. Just donate the money to the SoC project even. Or propose .NET coding projects on rentacoder.com. You could get a whole new .NET-based operating system developed there for about tree-fitty, I believe.

Doug on June 27, 2007 12:38 PM

Amen gemils!

SourceSafe is such a burden.

Subversion++ (I know it's not .Net. Give me some money an I'll port it to .NET ) ;)

cv on June 27, 2007 12:49 PM

SharpDevelop
NProf / NProfiler / Prof-It for C#
DotGNU / Mono
Diva (a very nice open source video editor)

I too am a long-time user of SharpDevelop. One of the big (and very needed) tools I've relied on has been nProf. Sadly, development on the 3 major open-source performance profilers seems slow at best (nProf, NProfiler, and Prof-It for C#). An infusion of funds could possibly really help.

HanClinto on June 27, 2007 1:04 PM

http://www.dotnetblogengine.net/

Phenomenal new blogging engine. I prefer it to dasBlog, Community Server, and subText already, and it has only had 3 revisions. (And no I am not affiliated.)

PWills on June 27, 2007 1:08 PM

I vote http://www.stencyl.com/about/

opensource platform game builder

Dave K. on June 27, 2007 1:09 PM

Castle Project

Robert Mircea on June 27, 2007 1:11 PM

"I really think we can extend the incubator idea Rob had to existing projects and also form some sort of organization to provide OSS mentoring. I'd be happy to teach the hard lessons I've learned, as well as learn from those who've run projects even more successful than mine."
So, Phil, in other words, a foundation of some sort should be founded, which receives donations and acts as a form of VC for OSS projects? (so OSS developers can get funding from that foundation to develop the projects) ?

Sounds interesting :)

Frans Bouma on June 27, 2007 1:11 PM

@Abdu,

> How about telling us about the details?

That is a phenomenal question. We're still trying to crank out the details (atleast I am, I'm sure Jeff has been thinking about this for a lot longer than I have). But I'm glad we're having this discussion - it gives us a lot to think about.

Thanks!

ai

anand iyer on June 27, 2007 1:19 PM

+1 for Paint.NET!

http://www.getpaint.net

GL on June 27, 2007 1:27 PM

Has to be MbUnit :)

Subsonic is also very good.

Ben Hall on June 27, 2007 1:28 PM

SharpLudus:

<a href="http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~sharpludus">http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~sharpludus</a>

It is a software factory for game development. Support would be great for us to create an upcoming XNA-enabled version of the factory (what the site shows is a prototype of a Managed DirectX version). Activities include the creation of game engines, domain-specific designers and code generators to be used by game programmers.

Regards,
-- AFurtado
[andrewilsonfurtado [at] yahoo.com.br]

Andre Furtado on June 27, 2007 1:47 PM

What about sponsoring a competion? Like the XPrize, but you can call it the NPrize.

Basically come up with a set of requirements for an open source project that would be nice to have (it could certainly be one that already exists), provide a deadline, and then, if there are multiple projects that have been nominated, your readers can vote for their favorite. It should be a winner take all competition.

It can be an annual competion. I'm sure some of your readers would be willing to contribute money for the prize. A competition might raise awareness as well as encourage the creation or improvement of a useful application.

Brian Brewder on June 27, 2007 1:48 PM

Definitely I would pick ZedGraph.

Matt Cuba on June 27, 2007 1:57 PM

+1 MbUnit
+1 RhinoMocks
+1 SharpDevelop
+1 PDFSharp (http://www.pdfsharp.com/PDFsharp/) more intuitiv then itextsharp ;)
+1 Paint.NET
+1 Ajax.NET Pro

Albert Weinert on June 27, 2007 2:04 PM

My two votes:

iTextSharp = Hey, I've had to go through and develop some weird things now and then -- but nothing was as scary as being told I had to develop a C# program that created/edited PDFs in the period of a few weeks. Without iTextSharp I think I would have had a nervous breakdown.

Paint.NET = It's just plain nice, works well, and saves me the money of having to buy something that is getting perpetually bloated (Paint Shop Pro) or something really expensive (PhotoShop) -- when all I ever really need is contained in this fantastically free application.

N on June 27, 2007 2:05 PM

I'm working to get a fledgling open-source .NET project, Titan, off the ground. Can I vote for myself in the "up and coming" area? :)

My nominations for established projects:
1. NUnit
2. NHibernate
3. Castle Project (MonoRail specifically)

I also nominate Ayende for a some sort of contribution, if for nothing else the sheer volume of his work. Why is he not an MVP yet?

Nate Kohari on June 27, 2007 2:34 PM

The future is geospatial:
+1 SharpMap
+1 Proj.NET
+1 NetTopologySuite
+1 MsSqlSpatial
+1 NHibernate.Spatial
+1 LinqToGeo

AshleyGIS on June 27, 2007 2:35 PM

Paint.NET all the way!

usedHONDA on June 27, 2007 2:42 PM

Like Doc Holliday said, "In Vino Veritas..."
That said, I am impressed w/ the nature of this 'open' discussion of open source, the length & breadth and all occurring today. Thusly, I would advocate allocation to any worthwhile OSS blogging activity.
My only other encounter w/ OSS is CommerceStarterKit and Subsonic, and definitely my vote goes there.
Keep blogging your viewpoints & I will continue to learn.

BearsBrother on June 27, 2007 2:44 PM

Just thought that I would comment - advertising for the Axosoft product was actually reasonably good placement... specially as I am looking at Mercury 'Quality' Center crash for the 2nd time at 7:54am. Grrr...

Adrian. on June 27, 2007 2:55 PM

Quote:
"Many highly popular open source projects have contributed so much to the .NET community, and they've gotten virtually no support at all from Microsoft in return. I'd like to see that change. In fact, I'll go even further-- I think it must change if Microsoft wants to survive as a vendor of development tools."

I agree; but I think someone should explain to them that suing MVPs isn't a good start to "giving back" to developers. *Referencing the Visual Studio Express fiasco over plugins, for the people out there who missed it* Just my $0.02.

That being said, I bought a student copy of Expression Studio last week. The VS team creates great tools, (I suspect they're all geeks, VS has a very geeky underpinning with a lot of polish on top) but with Management suing developers (MVPs nonetheless)... well, there's a reason I also bought a copy of Flex Builder 2 at the same time. Eclipse is great, but Macromedia/Adobe are just as bad as Microsoft.

scottl on June 27, 2007 2:59 PM

@Brian,

> What about sponsoring a competion? Like the XPrize, but you can
> call it the NPrize.

That is a brilliant suggestion (in fact, it was one of the ideas I had ;)

thanks!

anand iyer on June 27, 2007 3:01 PM

There's always lolcode.net.

I kid. And I wrote most of it. ;)

Nick Johnson on June 27, 2007 3:06 PM

Maybe, instead, you'ld be better off funding a programme to educate developers in how open source will destroy microsoft, .net, the free world, and their hope of having a career. And make sure you stay away from the evil horrors of the GPL which is the ultimate enemy of all software development - according to the guy in charge of the company that created .NET in the first place. ;)

Whatever on June 27, 2007 3:09 PM

I have not read all the replies, but I believe that when you "open source" code, you do it for one of two reasons. Either its your pet project and you want to share it with the world, or the project has become so big you need other developers to help expand and maintain the code, BUT you still make money from installing, customizing and supporting the product. (Sun <> OpenOffice)

I firmly believe the problem lies in .Net as a platform. As a Delphi programmer with the option do .Net or Not, I have again and again decided to stay with Win32 and not .NET. Why? Faster and Smaller Code. I still have to see one reason to change to .Net .Net is bloted, as is all MS products. And as I see it, MS wants to control everything they touch and eventually makes money from it. Maybe a good business policy, but why must I use code from company that may start charging for .Net, etc, while there are faster alternatives availeble?

Cornie on June 27, 2007 3:19 PM

1. NUnit
2. MbUnit
3. Castle
4. RhinoMocks

Sam Gentile on June 27, 2007 3:28 PM

I presume this is money to make the project better, right? Not a compensation or reward. If so, yes, Castle Project would definitely benefit from it.

hammett on June 27, 2007 3:40 PM

my votes for stablished projects:

+1 NAnt
+1 SharpDevelop
+1 Sandcastle Help File Builder ( http://www.codeplex.com/SHFB )

for the up and coming projects :

+1 FileHelpers - http://www.filehelpers.com
+1 Mygeneration - http://sourceforge.net/projects/mygeneration
+1 XP Common Controls - http://www.codeplex.com/xpcc
+1 "Ascend.Net" Windows Forms Controls - http://www.codeplex.com/ASCENDNET

Cheers

Marcos on June 27, 2007 4:02 PM

This has been great just to manifest some OSS projects I wasn't aware of, but definately want to check out. Thanks for just that!

rjd on June 27, 2007 4:22 PM

@Martin
Won't Mono fundamentally be killed by Silverlight and Subsonic by Linq.

To me, there will always be a need for SubSonic, Mono, Paint.Net, etc. OSS software is very good at finding holes introduced in every MS release and filling those holes.

So that is my 2 cents. :-)

JimShelly on June 27, 2007 4:36 PM

@Frans - I think this is another area where you and I will disagree. Open Source projects need financial support if they ever hope to grow past a certain point. Most projects can limp by for a long time on sheer volunteer effort, but at some point in their evolution they reach a size that just cannot be managed on a purely volunteer basis. They require some sort of financial support to be able to pay for the services they need to keep running. That may mean increased bandwidth or increased server capacity, even monetary support to pay for legal fees, or maybe it is just a few extra bucks for the developers to be able to reward their wives for putting up with all the crazy hours that they do.

Having worked for several years in the Java world I am very familiar with the OS model there. Even in the Java camp, the most successful projects recieve some sort of support. Sure NHibernate may only have one full time staff member, but I would be willing to bet that if they needed another server tomorrow to host their website, they probably wouldn't have a problem getting it. If they wanted to get trademark protection for their brand, the funds would be available for the legal fees.

Java did not spring from the ground with a full Open Source community ready to write code. It evolved because of some early projects which became successful and paved the way for other projects. You had people like Marc Fluery who did a ton to promote Java Open Source and fought tooth and nail with Sun in order to get Sun to certify the JBOSS Application Server. IBM spent hundreds of thousands if not millions building and promoting Eclipse, even while fighting Sun over the SWT. The Open Source community did not thrive on Java because of Sun but in spite of Sun. It even took a long time for Sun to open up to the Java Community Process.

Given the history of Open Source in the Java world, why would we think Open Source on the Microsoft world would be any easier, or would not require financial support, when clearly it required tremendous financial support in the Java world.

$2500 is probably not going to make a tremendous difference today. But it might be just enough to keep the lights on for a project a couple more months. It might be enough to give the project a little more breathing room until they can finalize a proposal to land a services contract. It might mean that a developer can afford to incentivize a tech-writer to create some good documentation. When you are on an open source project, every little bit helps. Even for a project the size of DotNetNuke.

Joe Brinkman on June 27, 2007 5:11 PM

Some very interesting open source projects out there. Thanks for a list. A few I had not heard of yet!

Projects I use...
+1 iBatis.net (More people need to check this out... It ROCKS!)
+1 log4net
+1 MyGeneration
+1 WiX
CruiseControl.Net

Michael on June 27, 2007 5:34 PM

+1 Castle

macournoyer on June 27, 2007 5:48 PM

Definitely the Castle Project and NHibernate

Aaron Jensen on June 27, 2007 5:57 PM

side note - I'd suggest using wufoo.com to gather the results. maybe for the final round after you break down the most popular projects?

They offer an easy and free form tool for stuff just like this.

It would help you from wading through the comments to tally the votes, but then again comments are good for a discussion...so yea.

kevin on June 27, 2007 6:29 PM

How about if some money goes towards training for .NET Programmers who have shown up on WorseThanFailure?

Mike Minutillo on June 27, 2007 6:31 PM

Money is always nice, but I personally find the biggest obstacle to contributing to projects is getting up to speed quickly with individual projects. Good documentation helps and screencasts with downloadable sample starter projects work the best. Some great samples are on the ASP.NET videos.

http://www.asp.net/learn/videos/default.aspx?tabid=63

Another example that does a great job is dnrTV.com. I think the biggest impact would be more screencasts but they need to be done well. Perhaps we could assemble a set of guidelines for what would help in producing a screencast for an OSS project.

I have used Wink, which is a free OSS project as well but the editor could use a bit more work. I am not sure if it is a .NET project at all, but if it was updated to use WPF it could fill a dual purpose. Otherwise the makers of Camtasia and BB Flash could donate licenses to OSS projects or MS could cover the cost of the licenses. And if we could identify someone who does a great job of producing videos for multiple projects they could use the funds to assemble the hardware they need to produce quality videos as well as hosting the videos.

Brennan Stehling on June 27, 2007 7:04 PM

Any of Roy Osheroves Regex library which has gone OSS recently. Regulazy and The Regulator

Mike Minutillo on June 27, 2007 7:21 PM

If we are looking at shear usefulness, I would have to say that the only OSS .NET package I actually use is Paint.NET. It is extremely powerful and well worth your consideration.

In simple terms, my nomination is Paint.NET. Done.

Brad Wolff on June 27, 2007 7:27 PM

I vote for Video Postbox! Not on Sourceforge yet but I know the developer is thinking about opening it up!

Lamity on June 27, 2007 7:38 PM

NxBRE, a .NET rules engine ( http://sf.net/projects/nxbre )

Daniel on June 27, 2007 7:40 PM

http://code.google.com/p/aforge/

+1 AForge.Net

Fariq Izwan on June 27, 2007 8:05 PM

Give 10k to Castle

It's at least 3 products : Windsor, ActiveRecord, Monorail

Steve on June 27, 2007 9:20 PM

hmmm, has anyone mentioned NDoc?

Scott on June 27, 2007 9:58 PM

I am thinking in a different way.

I would go for " SUBSONIC ", with IronRuby support.

This would give us best of both the worlds. Ruby as well as dotNET.

Dont you think, IronRuby is one type of Open Source Project, officially paid for development to JohnLam.

Since they could licence Ruby.Net and take it further with a new name as IronRuby, then they could too support SubSonic and take it more further.

Cheers.

SoftMind on June 27, 2007 10:10 PM

Jeff, i like your text based ad at the end of your blog. it is not in your face. However, i wonder how effective it is for the advertiser since it is very easy to overlook it.

Jack on June 27, 2007 10:17 PM

MS not supporting open source surprises you ?!
Come on! Please respect your readers and loose the ads! Please.

Wasfi JAOUAD on June 27, 2007 10:20 PM

> I'd suggest using wufoo.com to gather the results.

Great idea; I'll let comments percolate here for 1 or 2 more days, then put it up for vote. I also need to, y'know, collect the money..

Jeff Atwood on June 27, 2007 10:59 PM

Commerce Starter Kit
Subsonic

David Compton on June 27, 2007 11:00 PM

NVelocity (part of Castle now I think)
Watin

Joe on June 27, 2007 11:20 PM

Here's a vote for an up and coming open source project :
NGenerics (http://www.codeplex.com/NGenerics).

For established projects :
- CC.NET
- NUnit
- NAnt
- TypeMock
- Paint.NET

Peter on June 28, 2007 12:07 AM

I nominate the Commerce Starter Kit (CSK) - http://www.commercestarterkit.org - it's a well thought out, well constructed, versatile and generally excellent platform for commercial endeavours. It's one of the few pieces of open source software I know of that can help generate income rather than simply supporting the development process itself.

laurence timms on June 28, 2007 1:12 AM

I vote for Paint.NET which is just sweet, and if I can make a self-nomination, for ScrewTurn Wiki (http://www.screwturn.eu).

Dario Solera on June 28, 2007 1:37 AM

>Three donations of $2,500 for the most worthy established .NET open source projects.
* Castle
* NUnit/MBUnit
* Mono

Five donations of $500 for new, up and coming .NET open source projects.
* StrucutureMap
* Boo
* NSpec
* Rhino Mocks
* Screwturn Wiki

Ian Cooper on June 28, 2007 3:46 AM

laurence timms brings up a VERY good point. While the nature of this list is very developer-centric (not sure if that is a function of the readership or the nature of most open source projects), the CSK is focused on MAKING MONEY for you, and as a developer, your clients. While all of these tools are indeed very nice, and they help me, I don't see them as fulfilling the same promise as the CSK does.

But I'm partial :)

Chris on June 28, 2007 3:58 AM

my votes:
- mono
- log2net
- nunit

Kenny on June 28, 2007 4:32 AM

SQLite.net is an excellent open source ado.net provider for SQLite (which is an open source embedded database)

Gio on June 28, 2007 5:15 AM

ScrewTurn Wiki

Djuffin on June 28, 2007 5:42 AM

Screwturn Wiki - solid, simple to use and simple to extend

Mike Mestemaker on June 28, 2007 5:58 AM

Paint.NET

Julien Marchand on June 28, 2007 6:41 AM

My vote for MbUnit & Rhino.Mocks.

Vadim on June 28, 2007 6:48 AM

+1 for Castle Project

Adam McCrory on June 28, 2007 7:02 AM

Jeff,
I think you should start a website with a database-driven list of open-source .NET projects that has a wiki-like UI so anyone can contribute, complete with forums and links to projects on google code, codeplex, and so on. And you should apply to get some of that donation money to fund it. A bunch of loose comments on your blog won't cut it.
Cheers,
Peter

Peter Bromberg on June 28, 2007 7:08 AM

Subsonic. Supersonic DAL :)

Maciej on June 28, 2007 8:07 AM

Subsonic.

Maciej on June 28, 2007 8:08 AM

Mono and Moonlight

Gordon on June 28, 2007 8:18 AM

a) Argotic Syndication Framework
b) Sandcastle Help File Builder
c) BlogEngine.NET
d) Paint.NET

Brian on June 28, 2007 8:54 AM

I nominate PietschSoft.VE (http://codeplex.com/pietschsoftve3), an open source ASP.NET Virtual Earth mapping server control. I know it can't compete with the likes of MbUnit or DasBlog, but one can hope.

Chris Pietschmann on June 28, 2007 8:55 AM

I use (and vote for) Subsonic.

Alan Hunter on June 28, 2007 9:01 AM

Team MediaPortal are really started to get going, a cash injection would kick things along Very nicely.

http://www.team-mediaportal.com/

It's a .net (c#) open source HTPC application (like Microsoft's MCE) with some great developers on board and heaps of potential.

Get's my biased vote.

and-81 on June 28, 2007 9:11 AM

The ones that I wish I could use most in my current job are NHibernate and Castle. When I've used them before, they've really made a big difference.

David Kemp on June 28, 2007 9:19 AM

I vote for CruiseControl.NET, if that's eligible.

And, nice idea :)

Dino on June 28, 2007 9:50 AM

I think this is all interesting.

$2500

I don't want to say this - but do you think if they wanted to make money they could just sell their software?

ie. I don't see ReSharper going open source, and it's popular.

Perhaps a better way of funding these companies if for them to charge a small fee.

As far as Microsoft 'helping' them, there are better ways. Free MSDN license for a year, free VS.net, free Vista license.

But, the best way would probably be for them to openly support these projects and stop trying to assimulate all of them :)

ie. let's dump MSUnit and use NUnit. Let's support Monorail as an alternative to webforms. Both are good, but if MS openly would support them, it would help them more than a one time $2500 handout...

Steve on June 28, 2007 10:20 AM

If nothing else, this post is a great list of Open Source .NET projects.

Scott on June 28, 2007 10:30 AM

Subsonic and the CSK!

Scott on June 28, 2007 11:19 AM

I vote SUBSONIC ! Regards

Claudio Barca on June 28, 2007 11:20 AM

I vote SUBSONIC ! Regards

Claudio Barca on June 28, 2007 11:21 AM

I vote SUBSONIC ! Regards

Claudio Barca on June 28, 2007 11:22 AM

"but do you think if they wanted to make money they could just sell their software?"

I think you are missing the point. The money is not paying for software, oss has many contributors and this is about recognising good projects and good ideas.

"As far as Microsoft 'helping' them, there are better ways. "

Again missing the point. This is all about diversity. MS already helps developers a lot.

fred on June 28, 2007 11:22 AM

Keep some of the money, and don't give it all away. You will need it to pay for the lawyers when Microsoft sues you for helping them commit license violations by developing open source applications using the .Net framework.

Grant Johnson on June 28, 2007 11:29 AM

I definitly vote for SubSonic. Best DAL ever!

Wini on June 28, 2007 12:32 PM

Very innovative thinking, Jeff. Good work. I wish you a lot of success and I'll be following the progress.
Dave

Dave on June 28, 2007 12:42 PM

DotNetNuke

10K = another developer to help debug

Cire on June 28, 2007 12:42 PM

My vote goes to NHibernate. Hibernate is useful, but I don't think I could live well without NHibernate.

Mike

Michael on June 28, 2007 12:52 PM

Very interesting read ... I hadn't heard of almost any of these projects except for Paint.NET and NUnit. In particular, NGenerics looks very intriguing, and the license is compatible with Paint.NET's so I might find a way to use it.

I've tried to make a point of supporting the projects that help me out on Paint.NET. I've sent cash over to projects like famfamfam.com (EXCELLENT and FREE icon libraries) and Window Clippings by Kenny Kerr (http://weblogs.asp.net/kennykerr). Embarassingly I have not yet contributed to #ZipLib, which is an excellent library and is at the heart of the Paint.NET auto-updater. I was going to help out the TortoiseCVS guys with some 64-bit hardware because it didn't work on XP or Vista x64 at that time, but they managed to figure things out anyway (yes, I use CVS, and yes apparently according to Linus Torvalds that makes me "ugly and stupid" :)).

P.S. Thanks to everyone who's mentioned Paint.NET :)

-Rick (the Paint.NET guy)

Rick Brewster on June 28, 2007 1:05 PM

Well, you're right that you can't easily block the ad.

But, that begs the question - is preventing the ad-blocking a smart thing to do? I rarely click on ads (as I block most), but I *certainly* won't click on ads that prevent me from blocking them.

Roddy on June 28, 2007 1:18 PM

ScrewTurn ( http://www.screwturn.eu )

Best wiki ever met for small to mid-size wikis.

Best regards,
Joannès
http://www.lokad.com

Joannes Vermorel on June 28, 2007 1:27 PM

+1 for paint.net. Greatest program ever.

Frojo on June 28, 2007 1:53 PM

nlog - http://www.nlog-project.org/

Jesse Foster on June 28, 2007 2:12 PM

A late entry for new, up and coming:

A web-based IDE for distributed programming using IronPython

http://softwareindustrialization.com/AWebbasedIDEForDistributedProgrammingUsingIronPython.aspx

Mitch on June 28, 2007 2:12 PM

Also, it would be nice to get .netTiers out of codesmith. - http://www.nettiers.com/

Jesse Foster on June 28, 2007 2:14 PM

Add a vote for Paint.NET from me to the list if you'd be so good :)

Matt on June 28, 2007 2:50 PM

I'd like to throw Paint.NET in the ring, as well. It seems to be quite well represented, but hey - it's good. Between the UI, the user developed plugin support, a vibrant forum...it's definitely revolutionary. Easy to use, moderately powerful. Paint.NET is fantastic.

=David on June 28, 2007 3:07 PM

Paint.NET for the win :D I've been using this application for quite some time now, and i have achieved lots of nice works! (find them on my dA account!) It has a great UI, a very supportive community, and ofcourse, the ability to create and share plugins, which i use even more then the included effects.

Stephan on June 28, 2007 3:12 PM

I nominate Robert Simpson's System.Data.SQLite which is an ADO.NET 2.0 provider for SQLite.

http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/

t7 on June 28, 2007 3:20 PM

Definitely Paint.NET. The main author, Rick Brewster, has poured time and effort into this amazing program. When I started 6 months ago, I had zilch photo editing/creation experience. Thanks to the friendly community, using Paint.NET is now a daily joy of mine. :)

Rich S on June 28, 2007 3:22 PM

I think Jeff should decide for the funds he's got.

I think the amounts are pretty low. Maybe people who have built real work on these products can consider making donations. Do your own sums but that could help those who pour in so many hours.

MbUnit
Revival of NDoc
NCover
Paint.NET
Reflector

come to mind immediately.

I don't have a list of how to donate but that might be a useful thing for somebody to do. Maybe a web site that gives the developers of this code a chance to show all the work they're doing for free, to help inspire us.

Mike Gale on June 28, 2007 3:42 PM

Paint.NET is the best an app can be.
+1

Surgency on June 28, 2007 3:51 PM

+1 Paint.NET - Simple to use and easy to learn. I use it just about every day and it would have to be one of the most useful free pieces of software I have ever found.

Firefly on June 28, 2007 4:06 PM

Screwturn

Larry on June 28, 2007 4:24 PM

CruiseControl.NET
Mono
Paint.NET
MbUnit

Leif on June 28, 2007 4:33 PM

+1 for filehelpers.

Marcos Meli is beyond legendary, and works on a product that will add a lot of value but is very hard to put a ticket price on. He's exactly the sort of guy i'd like to see getting supported.

+1 for revival of Ndoc.

-1 for paint.net. They're just trying to steal from Microsoft's existing MSPaint.exe market. When microsoft do that to us, it's evil. When we do it to them, it's noble. ;-). (Just kidding, i love paint.net)

+1 for smaller donations to more people.

lb on June 28, 2007 5:13 PM

I'd nominate ScrewTurn Wiki (http://www.screwturn.eu/Wiki.ashx)

It's a wonderful project and there are VERY FEW wikis that work so well in IIS.

Syrinxx on June 28, 2007 5:49 PM

Any support to .net open source would be be most welcome. Even if you're not at the top it's a chance to get some exposure. How about having a few top 10 lists with different categories and donating to the top one of each.

My vote, but I'm biased ;-)
SharpForge - http://sharpforge.org/

Scott on June 28, 2007 6:38 PM

I really recommend like below
01. http://www.screwturn.eu/ (It is really awesome mid size .net wiki)
02. tp://www.commercestarterkit.org (with value)

YESChandana on June 28, 2007 7:26 PM

The Castle Project

http://www.castleproject.org/

Namely Castle, Active Record and Mono Rail. They bring method and good sense to development madness.

Paul Kohler on June 28, 2007 7:29 PM

It's gotten be SubSonic. I use it everyday and it makes DAL a breeze.

Geri Langlois on June 28, 2007 8:02 PM

I nominate TagLib-Sharp (www.taglib-sharp.com) which is written entirely in .NET 2.0 and continues to improve on a daily basis. From what I've seen, it's being maintained by one individual (with random help from others) who is currently attending college (definitely the type of person that could use the donations).

John Rennemeyer on June 28, 2007 8:34 PM

I first nominate screwturn wiki. http://www.screwturn.eu .
It's really simple and stands under the GPL.
My second vote goes for SubSonic which is a really awesome project.

Benno Lippert on June 29, 2007 1:11 AM

I found many people nominating NUnit or MBUnit but no one talked about NCover which is a very valuable piece of software ( http://ncover.org/site/ ). The only thing is I don't know if it's still opensource because I can't find where to get the source code, the website doesn't say anything about it (or I didn't find it).

Etienne PIERRE on June 29, 2007 1:32 AM

Plus one for System.Data.SQLite, the ADO.NET 2.0 provider for SQLite.

http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/

Quite important as SQLite is being used everywhere these days.

JSD on June 29, 2007 2:36 AM

@Etienne PIERRE:

Sadly, it seems NCover is indeed no longer open source:

http://ncover.org/SITE/forums/thread/1111.aspx

Too bad!

Jeroen

Jeroen on June 29, 2007 6:45 AM

Hmmm... Open Source... Here goes...

Infralution Licensing System (http://www.infralution.com/)

It's not free, but you get the source. Hence, it's open source.

It's a great component and well worth the small amount it costs.

NetSyndicate

Again, not free, but it's about the only thing out there in .NET that I've seen that allows podcasting easily in DotNetNuke.

DotNetNuke... Just a no brainer there.

While I like Paint.NET, it's not a replacement for Photoshop... Certainly worth consideration though... Not a nomination, but perhaps a small cheer for it...

I'm not too keen on nominating developer tools (yes - I'm all for ILS - but it's just so good). While there are some very good ones available, for .NET OS to have some kind of meaning outside of the .NET community, it needs to have some broader appeal. Things like DNN and Paint.NET are perfect examples.

Cheers

Ryan Smyth on June 29, 2007 8:39 AM

This is an incredibly valuable discussion - not just from the excellent list of .NET OSS projects but also for the varied viewpoints (concerns about Microsoft's OSS stance, value of x-plat .NET in Mono).

My team is sponsoring OSCON this year - if anyone is interested in getting together for an informal "birds of a feather" discussion there to flesh out what a full-featured Open Source Community program from Microsoft should look like, let me know (send email to sramji@microsoft.com) and we'll organize one.

And to all of you who put your blood, sweat, and code into Open Source projects on Microsoft technologies - thank you on behalf of my team and the whole company.

Sam Ramji
Director, Open Source Software Lab
Microsoft Corporation

Sam Ramji on June 29, 2007 8:52 AM

My vote goes to SubSonic, great tool

ReTox on June 29, 2007 9:35 AM

Here's a list of some of the most popular open source projects in C#

http://www.koders.com/csharpreport.aspx

Haacked on June 29, 2007 1:39 PM

The Castle Project and NHibernate.

Pierre Henri Kuaté on June 29, 2007 1:40 PM

I should qualify my last comment. I meant to say, "Most Popular according to Koders.com search frequency." However, not every project is in the index.

Haacked on June 29, 2007 1:40 PM

We can probably safely leave it to the advertisers or their representatives to spend money where they think it will be effective, ad blocking or not. The idea of a disinterested third party handling placement is excellent.

If the FePy project (Microsoft's IronPython on Mono with many of the Python standard libraries) is looking for contributions you might feel that helping them would be assisting "the Microsoft Ecosystem".

Good luck with the transition to advertising! I'm a feeble AdSense user myself, for now ...

Steve Holden on June 29, 2007 4:19 PM

>> While Reflector is great, it's not open source.

Yeah, until you use Reflector on it. ;)

-B

"In order to understand recursion, one must first understand recursion." -Unknown

Brian on June 29, 2007 4:49 PM

Ok, one more for SubSonic, NUnit, AnhkSVN, TortoiseSVN.

I'm on the fence about MS supporting SharpDevelop. It's a direct competitor, with some differences in tools, to VS. MS give money to them? Not so much...

@Frans: Think about where RedHat would be if they didn't throw money at Linux. IBM even has done it. Why can't Microsoft do it too? It only makes sense if you want to increase exposure of a technology, then support it. These people who create and work on these projects have mouths to feed, possibly more than their own. (Don't start on the "get a job" stuff, most of these guys do have jobs. Consider cost of living these days.)

It kind of also equates to the music industry. The record companies should top taking from the musicians if you aren't going to pay them.
Now push the musician aside and insert a programmer. Next, shove the music aside and insert an open source project. Now, swap the recording industry with a major corporation, Microsoft included but not exclusive. What kind of picture do you see? Players and substance are different, but the problem remains.

Big players are using small players so they can get what they want for free. Why not return some of that back to the smaller players?

Where do some of these projects get webspace and advertising from? The cost of that alone would kill a project quickly. Sure, there are cheap hosting services, but as features are added on the cost goes up. I wouldn't want to continually dole out money from my pocket alone to pay for these things. And spending the time out pushing the project instead of coding it, or figuring out how to come up with a decent marketing plan to possible provide such things a paid services and maybe full time support. This means that a team is developing. I can't see a team of people providing all these services AND creating the product for free even though the product is free! Licensing of the product is one thing, providing services along with it is a totally different subject but deeply rooted in this issue.

One way to look at this whole thing is not so much just giving money to the project, but "granting" the money to support smaller business that may end up supporting the bigger business. There definitely is a huge ROI in investing in the right projects.

John Baughman on June 29, 2007 5:04 PM

Screwturn wiki

chrixian on June 30, 2007 12:50 AM

The one's we use on an everyday basis and without which work would be harder :

1. MbUnit >> NUnit
1. CruiseControl.Net
3. Log4Net
4. SubSonic

damien on June 30, 2007 1:57 AM

In no order, If I can only have one, just select one at random.

SharpDevelop
CSK
DotNetNuke

OmegaSupreme on June 30, 2007 6:08 AM

Since everyone is mentioning SharpDvelop, i'm pointing here to a Flash/Actionscript IDE, FlashDevelop:
http://www.flashdevelop.com

Armando Alves on June 30, 2007 6:24 AM

Is there an official place to cast votes? If it was mentioned in the extremely long list of comments above, I scrolled right by it.

As for my vote, I would like to continue stuffing the ballot box for SUBSONIC: ALL YOUR DATEBASE ARE BELONG TO US.

flipdoubt on June 30, 2007 6:30 AM

Another vote for the ScrewTurn wiki, http://www.screwturn.eu

Simon on June 30, 2007 8:15 AM

I forgot about Cuyahoga, http://www.cuyahoga-project.org/

chrixian on June 30, 2007 8:41 AM

Hello ...

I'm developing a open source CMS call Olimpo - Content Manager System that is for the Portuguese community.

Right now I'm just ending first fase of developing, that is the the core of Olimpo and I will start second fase that is more modules that can be used by my clients.

This is a highly customized CMS that can be use by any one.

The final goal is to have a service based on Olimpo that anyone can create his own website / blog / Store / portal over internet using a easy administration and could upload some home made modules to interact with the CMS.

Right now I don't have source code to download because I'm changing the my Head Set to Linux. Olimpo is compiled over Mono, but I was developing in Windows (Windows .NET 2.0 Framework).

There is a SourceForge project that I will feed as long that I put the linux compiling Olimpo: https://sourceforge.net/projects/olimpocm

I don't know what I have to do to participate in this. My email is: esqueleto@tusofona.com and it's my MSN too.

I know that I don't have a great project in hands, but it's my goal to use this in Portuguese open source community.

Hope you can help me.


Regards
Paulo Aboim Pinto
Odivelas - Portugal

Paulo Aboim Pinto on June 30, 2007 11:58 AM

I vote for ScrewTurnWiki (http://www.screwturn.eu)

Wobin on June 30, 2007 5:51 PM

My favourite is:
Zedgraph: http://www.zedgraph.org

Other projects I like are:
Report Manager: http://reportman.sourceforge.net/
PDFSharp: http://www.pdfsharp.com/PDFsharp/

Nicola Ottomano on July 1, 2007 9:44 AM

First of all the amazing CastleProject

and after: Cuyahoga, SVN, Log4net, NUnit

Paolo Corti on July 1, 2007 1:29 PM

Another vote for Umbraco, www.umbraco.org

Really really nice CMS, with good integration for asp.net custom controls, excellent support for XHTML, etc...

Ruatara P on July 1, 2007 9:26 PM

Another vote for Castle Project.
And I second with Mono.

DM on July 2, 2007 1:19 AM

I'll be putting the vote page up Monday. Thanks again for all the excellent suggestions in the comments!

Jeff Atwood on July 2, 2007 2:35 AM

Is it to late?

My votes:

umbraco
subsonic
NUnit

Jesper Hauge on July 2, 2007 3:27 AM

Here's mine :

- NUnit
- Cruise Control .NET
- Subsonic
- NGenerics
- NCover

Michael on July 2, 2007 11:39 AM

+ one vote to wonderful Castle Project

Bruno on July 2, 2007 7:03 PM

My vote goes for the castle project (monorail). I would definately like to see that project develop even further.
Subsonic is also a very time-saving useful project.
I think we have all used ICSharpCode SharpZipLib in our projects at some point.

Anastasiosyal on July 3, 2007 3:43 AM

So where can we go to vote now?

Justin Chase on July 3, 2007 7:38 AM

Subsonic is great and has a strong support backbone from what I can tell so far.

I would like to see or if I had time to start an open source version of phpBB. I did what I think was a decent search for one and only found one justanotherforum and the now pay to play version from community server.

Brian Boatright on July 3, 2007 8:57 AM

There is some kind of system for this: the MVP program.

They work hard to find the right people, but if they miss somebody who deserves it, try this: go to http://www.microsoft.com/mvp, click "Frequently Asked Questions" at the bottom and the last question is "Q13: How do I contact the MVP program team?"
Use that email address to submit a suggestion!

Mihai on July 3, 2007 11:13 AM

Have I somehow missed the voting page?

Peter on July 3, 2007 10:25 PM

Subsonic!!!

Robin on July 4, 2007 4:14 AM

Nomination: Anthem.NET

Andy Miller on July 4, 2007 9:42 AM

My votes:

- Mono Project (www.mono-project.com)
- ActiveLock (www.activelocksoftware.com)

Pedro Alves on July 4, 2007 10:12 AM

I vote for mojoPortal, http://www.mojoportal.com, a C#-based open source CMS.

Josh on July 4, 2007 10:32 AM

- Castle Project,
- Ayende's RhinoTools,
- Cuyahoga

Jason Finch on July 4, 2007 6:16 PM

Probably too late to nominate, but BugTracker.Net has been solid for my group.

Brendan on July 5, 2007 4:19 AM

Another vote for Ankhsvn. .NET users need a choice for source control integration and must stop blindly accepting SourceUnSafe.

Dan on July 5, 2007 4:46 AM

Add another vote for screwturn wiki

Nate on July 5, 2007 11:15 AM

What's going on with this? The vote page was to be up last Monday, but I'm not seeing any mention of it anywhere . . .

Chris on July 6, 2007 12:27 PM

It's a lot more work than I thought it would be. For one thing, who checks to make sure these projects are actually open source? NDoc wasn't, despite what people thought..

Soon!

Jeff Atwood on July 6, 2007 12:43 PM

I vote for VMukti http://www.vmukti.com, A .Net3.0 based opensource unified communication product.

Among the top 10 Most Active projects on sourceforge & Coddeplex.

The Best OpenSource collaborative communication Videoconferencing solution

Nominated as a finalist for the Community Choice Awards 2007 on Source Forge

Siji on July 7, 2007 3:09 AM

my vote goes to http://www.commercestarterkit.org/ ecommerce portal

jaydev on July 8, 2007 12:40 AM

I am voting for NGenerics. This library is really becoming a most popular class library for .Net.

hg on July 9, 2007 1:33 AM

My votes for MbUnit and NHibernate

Darren on July 9, 2007 4:15 AM

CSK all the way

Skip Carter on July 9, 2007 8:18 PM

I Nominat ScrewTurn Wiki

it fantastic!!

Kingy on July 10, 2007 3:09 AM

I would like to nominate my own open-source project - .communities

You can find out more information about the project here:
http://www.codeplex.com/DotCommunities

CSharpEd on July 10, 2007 7:09 AM

My vote:

- SubSonic
- The Commerce Starter Kit (CSK)

Jiashu Wu on July 10, 2007 10:04 AM

These are the tools that I am using:

+1 ZedGraph
+1 NLog
+1 NUnit
+1 Alchemi Grid Computing Framework (http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/alchemi/)
+1 dnAnalytics
+1 Math.NET (http://www.cdrnet.net/projects/nmath/)
+1 NCover
+1 TestDriven.NET
+1 Netron (http://www.orbifold.net/Netron/info.php)
+1 MSBuild Community Tasks
+1 Snippet Compiler
+1 Regulazy
+1 WiX

I know some of those aren't open-source...Whoops.

That's all I can think of for now, more later, maybe.


mattman206 on July 10, 2007 12:49 PM

The more .Net becomes cross platform, the more opportunities exist for .Net coders. The best chance to make this happen goes to mono.
Too bad mono has become a part of Novell and didn't they make a deal with Microsoft?

Anyway here's my vote

Mono

Now, if somebody could migrate put a cool grid enabled rdbms on mono...

chicagokahuna on July 10, 2007 7:28 PM

ScrewTurn Wiki
Castle Project

Lee on July 11, 2007 8:43 AM

+1 NUnit
+1 PowerShell Community Extensions (http://www.codeplex.com/powershellcx)

Keith on July 11, 2007 4:21 PM

I'd like to vote for the Screwturn Wiki... with a bit of extra development work it will be the best wiki out there i think

James Wallker on July 12, 2007 12:03 AM

CoolStorage.NET : http://www.codeplex.com/coolstorage

A .NET 2.0 ORM library which has received quite a bit of attention since it was published on CodePlex a month ago.

Philippe on July 12, 2007 11:02 AM

Another vote for CSK....

Jens on July 12, 2007 9:43 PM

The screwturn wiki engine (http://www.screwturn.eu). Very nice .NET Wiki implementation.

nevillev on July 13, 2007 11:48 AM

Screwturn wiki
http://www.screwturn.eu

cjh30 on July 13, 2007 2:28 PM

I vote for SubSonic(www.subsonicproject.com). Its a great tool for data access layer.

Zharfan Mazli on July 21, 2007 9:38 PM

I nominate ScrewTurn Wiki. It's a great Wiki tool based on .NET!
http://www.screwturn.eu

jamu on July 31, 2007 6:22 AM

ORANGE! Its like a warm hug and a "welcome home!" every time I post.

Anyhow, I'd like to nominate www.screwturn.eu 's ASP.NET wiki software. It is about the easiest and best .NET implementation of a wiki that I've found.

I've been using it for about a week, and its been nothing but a pleasure. Its pretty well configurable, and because its OSS, I'm able to easily change stuff (like page layouts and scripts) that wouldn't be doable in a closed source app.

mcgurk on August 1, 2007 11:36 AM

You left out:

hMailServer (not .NET but open source windows)

Any other mail servers?

tb on August 2, 2007 11:41 PM

Mono - important for .NET projects to be accepted outside of Windows
ScrewTurn Wiki - well-built, easy to use, and easy to extend
SharpDevelop
Paint.NET

Carl on August 9, 2007 8:34 AM

I'd also like to add support for ScrewTurn wiki. It's light, it's fast and the code is well structured and maintained (not by lazy little me however!).
Although a fledgling project, I have found that many others like myself are flocking away from other wikis in favour of this gem.

http://www.screwturn.eu/

cmroanirgo on August 13, 2007 5:56 PM

My vote would go for ScrewTurn wiki. The look and feel are great and I constantly find non-technical colleagues approaching me to find out how to use it, which I think is great praise for any product, especially a software product. Anything that people can see, look at it, find useful and then want to use is very well designed, be it software or a hardware widget.

Ryan Walker on August 16, 2007 4:06 AM

ScrewTurn wiki :)

Shaun on August 23, 2007 2:28 AM

BigJumblies get my vote

Cire on August 23, 2007 9:58 AM

not in list yet:

http://springframework.net/

http://dotnetblogengine.net/

pavel samokha on August 26, 2007 4:11 AM

ScrewTurnWiki Very fast, it is the best I have seen.

Hemant on August 27, 2007 10:26 PM

I nominate ScrewTurn wiki.

i8pika on September 8, 2007 1:35 PM

I will also nominate ScrewTurn Wiki. I've been using it for over two months and it's working great at my company.

Luis Alonso Ramos on September 29, 2007 6:38 PM

My vote goes to BlogEngine.NET

Mads Kristensen on October 5, 2007 4:43 PM

It’s very good thing that lots of initiatives are taking place in the area of open source .net projects. I am .net developer and found lot of great things that I can use for development from open source projects. Recently I came across a list of some projects at http://www.dotnetopen.net/

swap b on January 8, 2008 8:42 AM

I'd like to vote for the Screwturn Wiki... with a bit of extra development work it will be the best wiki out there i think
http://sostroy.ru/

Olen on January 27, 2009 9:56 AM

My vote goes to AForge.Net. A great free open source imaging library for .Net.
Besides, if you are interested in learning how to exploit multicore processors to speed up image processing using AForge.Net, you will find a great example using AForge.Net and multithreading to improve the performance in working with images and with multicore CPUs, in the book " C# 2008 and 2005 Threaded Programming: Beginners Guide", by Gaston Hillar, Packt Publishing - www.packtpub.com
It includes many exercises related to image management with multicore support. Highly recommended if you want to improve performance and UI responsiveness.
You can download the code from Packt's website. http://www.packtpub.com/beginners-guide-for-C-sharp-2008-and-2005-threaded-programming/book

There is also an article in Packt's website: http://www.packtpub.com/article/simplifying-parallelism-complexity-c-sharp

I bought the book last week and it helped me a lot in my image processing needs. Now, I can split an image in many parts using the code from the book and I can make it exploit my Core 2 Quad. My boss is impressed!

Diego Salinas on February 4, 2009 6:10 PM

My vote would go for ScrewTurn wiki. The look and feel are great and I constantly find non-technical colleagues approaching me to find out how to use it, which I think is great praise for any product, especially a software product. Anything that people can see, look at it, find useful and then want to use is very well designed, be it software or a hardware widget.
http://olimpiclands.ru

Igoriok on May 7, 2009 10:12 AM






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